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  1. Scrobulous

    Cut off her hand...

    LPT, this is why I use the forum. You have provided a brilliant answer to my question and I am deeply in your debt. I didn’t really understand what you are saying, until I read your next post and the link, but it is such a relief! In some ways it is frightening how a lack of understanding can...
  2. Scrobulous

    Cut off her hand...

    I see where you are coming from, but it is not usual to characterise a people by what the worst elements in their society do. Although we have murderers in the uk, we do not say the british are murderers. It cannot be denied there were times when pretty well the whole country served foreign gods...
  3. Scrobulous

    Cut off her hand...

    You are making a grave mistake in associating the God of the jews with the devil. We are discussing differences between the old and new covenants, but both were mediated by the same God. Obviously the old covenant was not ideal. It accomodates man’s weakness and in it, God compromises his holy...
  4. Scrobulous

    Cut off her hand...

    I said the scripture is from God. The joint venture is a fact, not an opinion. You will also see that I acknowledge the inspiration of the holy spirit in the process. You seem to have an islamic view of the bible, that God in some way bypassed men altogether. Why did Jesus, then, not write an...
  5. Scrobulous

    Cut off her hand...

    So, please explain how cutting off a woman’s hand for defending her husband and stopping a fight has anything to do with a Levirate marriage. And I have heard all the arguments that by grabbing a man by the genitals, she endangers the messianic line, or can prevent a man having children. It’s...
  6. Scrobulous

    Could it be that the bible is in fact just written by men for men?

    Women can do as good as men in all situations that do not depend on physical strength. I want to know why you think that a woman with talent and intelligence is competing against men. She is competing with herself to achieve her ambitions. Ambition is nothing more than achieving your dream. A...
  7. Scrobulous

    Cut off her hand...

    It is very easy when countering one extreme position to go too far in the opposite direction. It often helps to define our terms. What is a jew? A jew is a person who lives under the old covenant. Certainly jesus and all our heros from the NT were born as jews, but they did not remain as jews...
  8. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    I completely agree! Science just tells us how God did it. The bible tells us why. Btw, what are the other three messages?
  9. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    Quantrill, I had a bet with myself that you would come back at me with that quote about private interpretations! But this is about the writers of the scripture and even then, they are not typewriters (as the muslims would have it). Scripture is a joint venture between man and God, with God as...
  10. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    When you read any text you have to interpret it, that is what reading is! How can you not interpret the bible? Or any other book for that matter? Interpretation is nothing more than understanding what you read. So everyone interprets the bible in their own way. What’s the alternative? To have it...
  11. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    It’s a good job none of this matters. A christian must have faith, but not faith in the age of the earth! God wrote the scripture and we all understand and interpret it in our own way. Some literally, others treating it as a metaphor for the same truth. The point is we all believe in Christ and...
  12. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    Hilarious! The moon has no atmosphere and no geological processes, why would it accumulate a 5 foot thick layer of dust? The only mechanism for dust accumulating on the moon is the numerous bombardment by asteroids and since these are very violent, most of the debris would be blown into space...
  13. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    You are changing the subject. We are talking about a young earth. Certainly science cannot explain the first self replicating organism, but this is admitted and that's my point. Science doesn't make false claims. If something doesn't work, the theory is thrown away. Science cannot explain many...
  14. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    Tee hee hee! You don't spend much time with geologists, do you? But they are all wrong, is that it? Why not take a look at the internet 'evidence that the earth is old' and try to understand the issues? This crackpot creationism gives christians a bad name.
  15. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    I believe in the theory of evolution
  16. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    The gap theory is an attempt to shoehorn the geological ages into the days of creation described in Genesis. The attempt is futile because it is based on a false premise. The days of creation were not intended to reflect the evolutionary process, they were designed to convey the fact that God...
  17. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    It’s easy to be a creationist if you have no scientific education.
  18. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    Physical death or spiritual death? Physical death very early. Spiritual death very late.
  19. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    Of course there is middle ground! To imagine that the only possible understanding of the bible is your own, demonstrates a remarkable intolerance and frankly, lack of imagination.
  20. Scrobulous

    How old is the earth?

    I think you are on the right track. Science keeps us honest by describing the means by which God did the things He did. The bible is not a technical manual, it is an inspired revelation that God uses to convey spiritual reality. There is no conflict between ‘religion’ and science. Nor is there...