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  1. wattie

    Loss of salvation???

    Jesus forgives all sin for those who believe in Him. He is God! He claimed equality with the Father while on earth. He could forgive people of sin He had not met who hadn't personally directly offended Him. He has power over sin to cleanse it. John 5:24 and 6:40 show eternal salvation cannot...
  2. wattie

    100% forgiven by God through Son the two as won (One)

    John 4:14 KJVS - But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
  3. wattie

    100% forgiven by God through Son the two as won (One)

    John 6:40 KJVS - And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day
  4. wattie

    He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

    The thing here is the body in question here is called local by Paul. 'Ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular ' This is the church (body) at Corinth. So when I see this, the baptism here IS water baptism, but it isn't about salvation, it's about baptism as a pre requirement...
  5. wattie

    He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

    I do try to obey God! I have been immersed after salvation.. I go to church regularly, study the Bible and share my faith. But these are responses to what God has done for me by giving me eternal life. Not the way of getting eternal life. Baptism is a response to the gift given..all works...
  6. wattie

    He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

    Yup CoC people in here alright
  7. wattie

    He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

    https://www.smule.com/c/124877437_4865920114 Its all about Jesus
  8. wattie

    He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

    But you are saying that they believed on the Lord Jesus Christ. That is what gives salvation.
  9. wattie

    He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

    The baptism of John.. people believed on the Lord Jesus Christ first. Acts 19:4 KJVS - Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. The Pharisees and Lawyers...
  10. wattie

    He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

    Indeed, the bible is the perfect thing in 1 co 13. But is salvation about getting wet, or belief on the Lord Jesus Christ?
  11. wattie

    He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

    Baptism that is 'not the putting off of the filth of the flesh' cannot save eternally.
  12. wattie

    He that believes and is not water baptised is saved

    'Save' does not always mean salvation from sin. So.. a 'salvaged life' to God. Being a faithful believer...includes water baptism. This is separate to belief on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.
  13. wattie

    How do you get saved?

    I go door knocking with a church member most weeks, once a week. We don't dress up like JWS or Mormons, but like the people we are sharing with. We go thru a tract with people after inviting them to our church with a card and asking them if they are 100 percent they are going to heaven. If...
  14. wattie

    How do you get saved?

    Okay John 3:16,5:24, 6:40.. what do they say? Romans 10:9-10 also. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. This is, inwardly believing that Jesus is God, that He died and rose again.. and that by believing in Him you have everlasting life. This can be outwardly expressed by a prayer...
  15. wattie

    How do you get saved?

    Oh no, not saying that. I am just talkin about the initial salvation experience.
  16. wattie

    How do you get saved?

    I used to go out sharing with Campus Crusade for Christ. Using the four spiritual laws booklet to lead people to Christ. That was an amazing experience, although later I have found their prayer for salvation to be a bit conditional on behaviour. Eg.. 'I now submit my life to Christ' . Well...
  17. wattie

    How do you get saved?

    Yeah I know what you mean. I don't see anything wrong with praying a prayer.. as long as you are believing on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.
  18. wattie

    How do you get saved?

    Okay.. the example has the condition of surrendering as a behaviour. Surrendering would be fine.. if that meant surrendering by belief on the Lord Jesus Christ. It is purely believing on Jesus Christ for eternal life. That is it. No behaviour involved.. no work involved. Repent is a change...
  19. wattie

    How do you get saved?

    This explains it well
  20. wattie

    How do you get saved?

    The prayer is enough.