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Sorry, but the rapture will certainly be pretrib. Anything else is a lie.

Beware: if pretrib is TRUTH - and it is - you are calling truth a lie. This calling truth a lie fits well with the season, but I don't think it will please God. Did you notice that in 1 Thes. 4 & 5, Paul wrote of the rapture first, before the Day of the Lord and before wrath? Did you notice...

I am not sure I understand this post. "Second" in relation to His coming is used only once in Scripture and even then the words is "appearing," not "coming." Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time...

I think you need to work on "clearly states." John 3:16 is a very that "clearly states." For many of Paul's passages, it takes study and meditation to determine his meaning. This is especially true of the 2 Thes. 2 passage. This passage requires an understanding of many other of Paul's...

Sorry, but Revelation 14 speaks of a time just shortly after the man of sin will enter the temple - the moment the week is divided. In other words, shortly after the midpoint of the week. In comparison, wrath begins at the 6th seal before any part of the 70th week. (the week begins at the 7th...

Jesus coming to the clouds for the rapture: SECOND coming. Jesus coming to set foot on earth: THIRD coming. The rapture comes before wrath, else why would Paul mention the Day of the Lord (and the start of wrath) just three verses after His classic rapture verse in 1 thes. 4? It will certainly...

I disagree. I think when the 70th week begins, most believers in the world will know. Why? Because it will be after the rapture and then after the great, worldwide earthquake of the 6th seal that kicks off the Day of the Lord. The next events will be the first trumpet judgments. They will be...

There are too many problems with prewrath theory, but a very glaring one is it requires an almost total rearranging of Revelation, proving it is a theory of error. Case in point? The 5th seal is for the martyrs of the church age, and the days of Great Tribulation in Revelation won't start...

We don't form scripture from one lone verse, but from all end time verses. What 1 Thes 4 does not say, John 14 does say. Whenever Jesus comes, glory clouds follow Him. This fact alone does not tell us much about which coming a verse is about. If this was true, you would now He is coming twice...

Your second coming scriptures leave out His THIRD (3rd) coming. He is coming the next time (2nd coming) FOR His church, but only to the air, as shown in 1 Thes. 4 - a coming scripture you failed to list. He will come the 3rd time and touch down. Acts tells us He will come just as they saw Him...

Reading and eating popcorn! ;-)

If you would take Revelation 4 & 5 at face value, and believe what Jesus said: "The end is not yet," you would know that the seals are not a part of the 70th week of Daniel. We KNOW that chapters 11, 12, and 13 are midpoint chapters: each includes at least one "countdown" from the midpoint to...

Human reasoning versus scripture.

Thanks! I have never heard of this young man before. Awesome!

I see one mistake in the chart: Daniel said the belly and thighs were brass. The chart shows just a tiny part of the belly.

You are free to believe that if you choose. Maybe if you shout loudly, someone in heaven will hear you, such as the rich man that talked with Lazarus. From the Old Testament the Jews always knew where Hades was: DOWN. Ezekiel 31:16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I...

Apples versus oranges. You are mixing. There are three end times groups and scriptures pointed to each of them: 1. The church 2. The Jews and Hebrews or Israel 3. The Nations. Take a verse pointed to Israel and try it for the church and you end up with wrong thinking. For example, the...

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As I read this text, Paul is making a paradigm, bringing up two different groups of people and showing us two very different outcomes at the same moment in time: FIRST the dead in Christ arise (which event will cause a worldwide earthquake [Mat. 27] ) Next, the two groups: 1. Those alive and in...

“John watched a search to find one worthy to open the seals—a search that ended in failure—and that is the reason John wept much: no man was found worthy. However, if you read ahead, you find that I was found worthy to break the seals. Why then was I not found in that first search?” Notice the...