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Good question..I do know it was thru Isaac that the true line thru which God's promises came and not Ishmaels line.

When Abraham offered his son Iaaac up...he had believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness long before offering up Isaac. Rehab was using faith she already had. So you are right it's not saying their eternal salvation is hooked to these acts of service..but if they didn't do...

Another passage that we quote alot is James 2 'faith without works is dead' Most of the time, though we don't read the surrounding verses. James 2:14-22 KJVS - 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister...

Yea i agree, so the Matthew 18 passage would be about taking steps to actually have discipline in your local church.

The purpose of the book of John is showing a believer they have eternal life. Past tense. Forever. They believe on the Lord Jesus Christ..they get eternal salvation.

From CROSSNOTE: So, how is one saved except by grace alone through faith alone?

You were posting to a BELIEVER man! So hell is not a place they are going! That is what I'm saying.

Heresy right here man

There are principles that allow a reader to understand a passage of scripture, having first prayed for the Holy Spirit to work on your heart before reading the passage. Firstly- Asking who is talking to whom? The people being addressed could come from many different backgrounds and not be...

The Mosaic and Levitical laws have been superceded by the New Testament system of service under grace

Yes.. in John 3 its either the water of new life in regeneration which is not water baptism..or being born of the flesh by water of the womb and then later by the Spirit. Neither case are about water baptism.

I did not mean someone just repeating a line back. I mean from the heart confessing what you believe to Jesus. The mind is changed and then the person confesses that change from the heart. But this most surely is instant. There is no time period put in scripture between believing and being...

Salvation is believing on the Lord Jesus Christ for eternal life. Full stop. Done deal. Almost the entire book of John says this. Service after salvation..or discipleship ..is water baptism, reading your Bible, sharing your faith etc.. That is where James 2 comes in. They are separate...

Yeah.. ambiotic fluid.. at birth.. same thing.

When Nicodemus spoke to Jesus about being born again, he didn't understand and asked how a man can enter a second time into his mother's womb. So the water of the womb is the context of the birth. Jesus then answers to say you must be born by water (the water of the womb) and the Spirit (later...

I found this a little hard to read because you have entire verses in the KJV .. but they are only part in the other books. Are they really broken down that much? I would have thought the other bibles have similar length passages, but with different wording, like most comparisons. I must check...

Agreed

1 Corinthians 3:13-15 KJVS - 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any...

I'm not saying works have anything to do with it in salvation..I'm saying that since the Holy Spirit quickens and rebukes His children, then it is unlikely they will go off completely in the opposite way. But it is not impossible. I don't agree with the Calvinist in saying a believer will be...

I'm not saying they were never saved to begin with after having believed. I'm saying if there is NO fruit from salvation it is fair to question their salvation .