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It's always the case of discipline, rebuke and reward verses getting called 'lose eternal life'

What is the greatest gift of all? John 3:16.... Eternal life through Jesus Christ our Saviour and God.

You aren't taking into account the context of the cutting off and judgment passages Jimmy. A whole church being judged isn't each individual in that church losing eternal life. Being 'cut off'. ...what is the context? Is that an individual losing eternal life or being disciplined and...

I arrived at OSAS teaching without knowing what calvinism was or what he taught.

Yeah.. what Jimmy here has posted has no context and has been repeated over and over not just by him.

Yes, soooo many people get fed the idea that Christianity is either Calvinist or Arminian and there is nothing else. The Bible teaches neither. Same as being fed the idea that Catholics and the Reformers are all the history of Christianity. That ignores independent Christian churches that...

Once saved always saved is preached in reformed tradition churches.. but if it's thru calvinism..thats not really osas..because calvinists link works to salvation by saying an 'elect' person will definitely 'endure to the end'

Well..I can tell you he most likely does not follow reformed doctrine, being independent missionary Baptist as I am...which are not reformed tradition churches. Church history isn't Catholics, the Reformers and no one else. It's Catholics, reformers and other independent Christian churches...

The 'sinneth not'.. when the 'eth' is on the end of a word, it's an ongoing, continual action. So a believer would not habitually sin because the Holy Spirit will rebuke and prompt them to restore fellowship. It doesn't mean 'never sins' ...because no human can do that. This is what I think...

Yes. So then are we going to argue that each and every believer in that church lost eternal life?

Yea.. parents don't disown a rebellious child if they are doing their job..yet some say God's connection to his children is LESSER than than a parent to a child.

Yet they DON'T suppose that, and you've been told that many times, yet you continue to INTENTIONALLY bear false witness against your neighbors. REPENT! THIS is why I can't talk to this clown. He will not listen and every conversation I've seen him in, he is always speaking in bad faith. I...

Act_26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. Act_26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem...

Again....an entire church losing the presence of the Holy Spirit is not the individuals in that church each losing eternal life.

An inquiry here: Where in the bible do we 'turning from sins' part of initial salvation? Surely turning from sin we can only do after conversion if we are talking about an active behaviour. Because before conversion we are dead in sin, and any act of reducing sin before conversion is just...

Context is key again. When a whole group of believers is being addressed, what happens to the whole group does not necessarily happen to each individual. For eg.. the Holy Spirit leaving a church.. that is not individual's losing eternal life. There is also the Holy Spirit blessing an...

Here is the difference... Trusting in Jesus for salvation..one time event...saved by His grace. John 3:16, 5:24, 6:40 etc.. And then having been given eternal life ..what is our right response to that? That is where following Jesus' behavioural instructions come in. We follow the New...

Again, you are ignoring the book of John, which assures believers they have eternal life and does not have works involved. So these verses need to be compared with the likes of John 3:16, 5:24, 8:40 etc.. As Nehemiah posted.. you are mixing up justification with sanctification.. salvation...

God draws someone, allowing them to believe in Him. They are then able to trust in Jesus for salvation, believing in Him..for eternal life. Romans 10

Yes... Lordship salvation 'back loads' works into the gospel. Works to gain salvation 'front loads' works into the gospel. Both rely on 'I' doing something..whether to get saved or 'prove' you are saved. Jesus' gift of salvation is free. John 3:36, 5:24, 6:40 etc.