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English grammar 'church'.. Same as 'the dog'... 'the cat' .. 'the horse' Singular standing for plural. 'The horse is a magnificent animal'.. this is non-specific to one horse.. but is representing all horses. Normal English grammar. Same thing applies to 'the church'.. when it is not...

No, re-baptised once.. that is all. Do it once and you have the pre-requisite to join one of God's churches. Joining another church you get voted in or similar thing like a letter of recommendation. The baptism is a pre requisite, but not the actual joining. Salvation, after this getting...

The Family of God. This is what a believer joins at believing on Jesus Christ. They join a local body of Christ through immersion baptism in water as a pre requisite to join one. 1 co 12 context is of the local body at Corinth. Therefore baptism by immersion in water becomes the baptism...

From https://www.jackhyles.com/church1.htm Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; Ephesians 5:25 If anything refutes the invisible church, this is it. Jesus compares Himself and His church to a man and wife. Consequently, if there an invisible...

This is the case of the current local body at Ephesus with a comparison to the future one body of all believers in the end.

Right.. there is a body of all believers in the end when the New Jerusalem is formed. That is when all believers can be termed 'the church' But in regards to Ephesians.. the church is compared to plural wives. Multiple wives. Ever heard of a 'universal wife?' .. 'local wife' is also...

Yea I got it. I agree with all churches plural being called 'the church ' That's common English grammar ..such as 'the bar'. 'the horse '. 'the cat' It's non specific to one dog or cat in particular but representative of an individual cat. Same goes for 'the church' ... not one church in...

Right.. so 1 Corinthians 12 (1Co 12:12) For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. (1Co 12:13) For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or...

I don't mean a building though...but the group of saved baptised believers, covenanted together that meet in that house. That is what a church is...it's never the material the group meets in. But is a local body of saved, baptised believers. That's how scripture defines it. But anyway, what...

Well churches start churches.. so Cru, YFC plus others are not New Testament churches. In fact leaders I know in Cru will say they are no church and emphasise joining a real church.

Yea I was part of CRU as a student. The problem is that clubs that get set up by cru..soon as the starters of the club's move on .. often the club's lose their depth and become social clubs.

Really the point of this thread is prioritising the local church. Many will prioritise an organisation like Cru or Youth for Christ or some other para-church org. But the source is and always has been in the local New Testament church for all teaching and wisdom from Christ. The other orgs...

This is true. Of course.. where does the sound doctrine come from? The source is from God through the bible, preached in the local church primarily.

But unity at the local church level is what is called for in the NT. It's in churches. Unity across millions of believers all over the world? Only achieveable thru churches that go back to the bible.

It's true nothing is too large for God, but what unity is being called for in scripture itself ? It's always to a specific local body. Paul's letters..all to specific churches...not to every believer as a whole. 'if one member suffers, then all do' in Corinthians... regarding the body...

But a hand and a foot was not a church, but an individual member

Yes.. 'you' by context is the church at Corinth.

Because it's hugely popular to call every believer the body of Christ... but it's highly unscriptural. If it doesn't meet, has no teaching, has no ordinances, it's not a body. It's not assembled. That's why I'm being picky. A body of all believers maybe some kind of body...but it's not the way...

Right, the bride of all believers..isn't married yet..😀 It hasn't happened yet. We are engaged to be married as it were ..but are not one body of all believers yet. That's going to happen as the New Jerusalem..but is not a current entity. What we have now is the Family of God, with all...

Well my church is KJVO and I use the KJV..but I'm not personally KJVO. KJV only.... some will actually attach salvation thru Jesus being only fully understood by the KJV I don't go to that point. There are verses in other Bibles that are clearer than the KJV puts it. Saying the same thing in...