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Their service isn't part of how they received eternal life. Their service is a response to the gift given to them out of love to give back to the freedom giver. So it is a result of being a new creation that God has equipped to do good works.. but these good works are not guaranteed to happen...

Yeah.. different kinds of faith again. Justification for eternal salvation.. and the after salvation.. having an act of service 'justified ' in the eyes of God

Okay.. me thinks I'll take another look at James. Ill see what it is actually saying. Blessings

Start of James chapter 2: James 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. The faith of our Lord Jesus Christ.. ... these are christians! It is the twelve scattered yes...also scattered believers in Christ. James and Paul do not...

Abraham..offering his son Isaac.. example of his relationship with God.. having been saved by God earlier. His act was justified before God.. but it wasn't the justification for eternal salvation. Rehab.. demonstration of faith already existing.. Same with the other examples. They could...

This is a statement without context... there are different kinds of faith.. faith at salvation and faith after. James has examples mostly after salvation

Remembering saints is one thing... idolizing them over Jesus is another

There is a difference between being saved from troubles, trials, tribulations, and being saved eternally. The 'he who endures to the end' verse has context of deliverance from trials and tribulations, not about eternal deliverance. Hebrews 10.. where their is remission of these..there is no...

Well, a first example would be with speaking in tongues. In Acts 2, the tongues were *a known language.. with people hearing the gospel in their own language, as God was spreading His truth *not ecstatic utterances *a sign for the unbelieving that those who spoke in their language would...

This is the thing in these kinds of discussions. If I may chime in. The definitions of what we are talking about is not the same. We need to define what exactly the sign were biblically, and also what constitutes a biblical miracle. Part of the reason I believe the sign gifts have passed...

Yes and the case of the likes of Stephen, who could do the works of an apostle.. they were specially associated with the apostles and therefore the exception rather than the rule. 'Given the right hand of fellowship' as they call it :)

Thing is believers could be perfect in the sense of maturity and completeness before the event of the second coming, and Jesus was perfect, nothing in part before the second coming.. and perfect in the sinless sense before the second coming. The Word of God though was in part at the time of him...

The word perfect in the bible is associated with completion and maturity. teleios tel'-i-os From G5056; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.); neuter (as noun, with G3588) completeness: - of full age, man, perfect. Someone then can be mature and...

So if Jesus is the perfect in 1co 13.... The perfect is neuter gender when looking at the Greek.. it is a 'thing' or 'that' .. relating to something inanimate. Also.. whatever is in part in 1co 13 is completed by the perfect. So the perfect would be a completion of prophecy, tongues and...

Well we've already been thru this. Ephesians 4, can be compared with 1 Corinthians 13, where both have a point at which the gifts fulfill their purpose. Part prophecy and tongues completed by the perfect. Offices of prophet with accompanying signs and wonders until they come to the...

Also Ephesians 4 has a point where they all come to the knowledge of the unity of the faith. This is a measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.. that allows believers to be matured in the faith. Question: whatvus this?

The accompanying signs, miracles and wonders were for particular purposes in setting up the early churches and communicating Gods Word. That was completed and fulfilled, so the sign gifts become unnecessary and put away. That isn't to say God cant heal or do miracles but not thru the gifts.

There is one God.. who is expressed in 3 persons.. these persons though are not seperate beings but different expressions or images of the one being, God. This is so because Jesus is fully God.. so are the Holy Spirit and the Father. Looking at Revelation is a good illustration of this Jesus...

Born of water.. Nicodemus refers to going back into the mother's womb... so Jesus is referring to physical birth .. and then later being born of the Spirit.. when they believe in Jesus. Salvation being at the later point when they believe. So it is as you say believing Jesus died and rose...

If by repentance, we are talking about doing acts to reduce sin in our lives to attain salvation, then that's works for getting salvation. If we are talking about repentance in terms of believing on Jesus Christ and knowing He accepts us as we are as sinners in need of grace and mercy...