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My understanding of predestination is that when a believer receives Christ as their Saviour .. a place in heaven is pre set for the believer. Not a predetermined set of people destined for heaven or hell. Also.. the system of churches Jesus established is pre set for a believer to join.. and...

The Holy Spirit indewlls a believer at salvation. Therefore the Holy Spirit is inside that person's soul. So.. God promises to never leave nor forsake a believer. Therefore after salvation.. He will stay with them thru all their struggles and sin. That is what a parent does when they are...

Free will to receive Christ.. not to reject salvation after, because the believer doesn't own their salvation, God does. If God wont leave you, He will stay with you if you reject Him after salvation

Oh.. I'm a guy by the way 😎

I guess what I am saying is.. if someone sees someone that claims to be saved .. and isn't exhibiting good works.. often they go to the 'never saved in the first place' line. This is really something that could be less visible. The fruit from being saved may have been obvious earlier.. and...

I have an issue with a saved person WILL do good works. I know there WILL be fruit from being saved.. patience, kindness, self control.. etc.. that is the result of the Holy Spirit being in someones spirit.. but good works don't automatically happen.. the believer has to rely on the Holy...

Okay.. well let's start with Jesus and His disciples. That was the first church. First New Testament assembly of saved, baptised believers.. (altho Judas was most likely not saved). Jesus called and led these men as a church.. of course they were saved first and THEN they were a church...

Well they DID plant churches.. and they DID by Jesus will for them.. so I am not sure what you are getting at.... I think I am missing context here friend :)

What did Paul, Barnabas, Timothy, etc... do? They either planted churches or lead them. By Jesus' will for them. Matthew 18... is a process for resolving disputes in the small c.. church. From Jesus. Revelation... has the 7 churches.. where the Spirit is the candlestick for each one...

God pre selecting who is saved and who is not.. regardless of the persons will to believe or not is not OSAS.. that's calvinism which is not the same thing. Calvinism is hardly teaching OSAS .. because of someone isn't doing good works most calvinists will go to the 'never saved in the first...

This is the thing... if a Jewish believer is truly calling Jesus the Messiah... is the word meshach? Then Jesus.. or as you call Him.. Yeshua.. must be fully God.. 'Elshadai.. Eloheim..YHWH..' Yahweh.. the God of the Old Testament.. is the same as Jesus.

I would like to know if you believe Yeshua is fully God. I've heard in past people say.. 'son of God.. but not God' I'd like to know if you believe Him to be equal and one with Eloheim

Okay, so the examples James gives in chapter 2.. with Abraham, Rahab..etc.. Do you believe they were actually eternally saved by their acts of service? Or is this a response to God out of love for what he had already given?

Brutal honesty.. A very significant amount of users here would be high internet users. Therefore there is also a high chance, even though the majority would be believers.. that they get caught up in looking at adult content sites. Now.. for those who believe salvation can be lossed...

Come back to scripture.. not personal attacks

The line of 'a saved person, WILL persevere.. WILL do good works.. WILL have a continuous abiding faith'.. that isn't biblical. It's Lordship salvation.. self effort involved in proving you have been saved. John 3:16-- someone believes in Jesus.. they have eternal life. Full stop. Also...

All good, no worries. I will also add.. that for those of us that see the sign gifts as having completed their purpose .. done their job.. ceased etc.. We would (I hope) still believe God can do miracles by His will, still do marvellous things.. still empower believers.. still stir the...

Well no I cant... of course the Holy Spirit reveals His will to believers, but He no longer needs to repeat what He revealed thru scripture and setting up of the foundation of christianity thru His churches. The process in God revealing His Word thru the canon ends the gift of prophecy...

Yup Pentecostal and charismatic denoms are the ones that have the gift of prophecy continuing. I believe the gift of prophecy is completely tied to Gods progressing revelation, which is completed thru the completion of Gods Word. Having a continuing gift of prophecy though you will find in...

But if someone isn't displaying a continuous abiding faith... does not always mean they were never saved. Faith in being saved and delivered eternally, is once and for all, with no mixture of works at all. All God doing the saving and zero percent us. THE faith after salvation is different...