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  1. wattie

    Ephesians 4:11-16

    Come on man! It was in process and the books finished being inspired around then. We are talking about the process ..not the paper. God finished inspiration around then.
  2. wattie

    How can we know when Christ lives within us?

    Key thing for me was knowing the assurance of salvation from Christ and the security in Him. He calmed my fears and gave peace. I began to stop biting my nails and became more confident in the faith. I was probably saved at 13 or 14.. but didn't know much till I learned of the assurance...
  3. wattie

    Ephesians 4:11-16

    With the early church fathers.. I'd need to think about each one seperately in what they believed. If they are working for their salvation.. then it isn't going to give credence to what they say on the gifts of the Spirit. If they are a bishop over multiple congregations.. that's a twisting on...
  4. wattie

    Ephesians 4:11-16

    You also have the Bible referring to itself as a mirror.. and the perfect law of liberty..so context is key here.
  5. wattie

    Ephesians 4:11-16

    As Dirtman wrote..it existed in letters before being a whole complete library
  6. wattie

    Ephesians 4:11-16

    Yes, but also the Bible was complete about ad 70-100. The council that approved it as a Canon were confirming what was already authoritative
  7. wattie

    Ephesians 4:11-16

    Not atheists of course !
  8. wattie

    Ephesians 4:11-16

    1 Corinthians 13 is a passage that doesn't stand alone in support of the cessation of the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit, but there are key points in the passage that link the perfect to something that isn't about Jesus. For example-- the perfect is a completion of the gift of knowledge, tongues...
  9. wattie

    Restoring the rainbow

    Yeah, I understand this. There is a problem in if we were to wear t-shirts and caps and the like, we would then open ourselves up to be flooded with MORE rainbows of the lgbtq meanings.
  10. wattie

    Restoring the rainbow

    Too true. I like the idea of rather than condemning the LGBTQ community.. just having the t-shirts and what not that say the christian meaning. As a side thing-- I've heard people say that if a person from that community gets saved, that they WILL no longer be gay, lesbian etc.. At...
  11. wattie

    Restoring the rainbow

    Unless you've been living under the sand over the past several years.. you would have noticed that the rainbow has become a symbol of something that God did not purpose. So let's get back to the real meaning of what the rainbow is really about. Is it about individual rights and freedoms and...
  12. wattie

    Ephesians 4:11-16

    The until part of of Ephesians 4.. Is indicative of a point at which afterward Christians continue to grow in Christ. It is also.. a measure.. that gives maturity... that allows Christians to no longer be carried about by every wind of doctrine. Doesn't look like the second coming here, but...
  13. wattie

    Ephesians 4:11-16

    Jesus Christ is the same, yesterday, today and forever isn't a reference to spiritual gifts, but the certainty of His promises and unchanging nature. It's also about the certainty of His 2nd coming Also God works in different ways and with different covenants over time. God no longer uses...
  14. wattie

    The Plan of salvation.

    It does seem a bit unclear. Has sacrifice and atonement but then keeping laws to get salvation.
  15. wattie

    The Plan of salvation.

    Is the op saying the way of salvation is by leviticus laws and moral law, or are they saying the plan of redemption is shadowed as a type in the OT ?
  16. wattie

    The trinity ,can you be saved and not believe in it?

    Someone could believe Jesus is God and entrust their salvation with Him, and then learn the trinity after being saved.
  17. wattie

    Not By Works

    Depends on the kind of salvation in the context of the verse. Is it salvation as in eternal life being given thru initially believing in Jesus as Saviour? Or is it salvation as in being delivered from a bad situation.. like trials and tribulations..or delivered through a rescued life .. eg...
  18. wattie

    Not By Works

    I remember reading the Kingdom of the Cults by Walter Martin and that had a section on the SDA church. The book was current at around 2003 I think, so things would have changed a bit since then.. but Walter wrote that the SDA had gone into different branches (like a lot of denominations)...
  19. wattie

    Yet another example of Word Faith deception

    Big problem in declaring something done by God, that haven't been done. Kenneth with covid19.. declaring it over. Praises God as if it were gone. Bill saying God will always (and I think he also means miraculously heal).. when that doesn't always happen. Counterfieting the power of God...
  20. wattie

    Is The Word Of God Inconsistent?

    Good to know thanks about Ezra and Nehemiah.. I knew they were one book in the Torah.. didn't know they weren't minor prophets.