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  1. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    I agree as Yahshua says: Yahanan/John 14:28, "You have heard that I told you: I go away, but come again to you. If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I." BUt I want to point out and this is from the ORIGINAL POST: I never said...
  2. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Yes you are welcome, so Ill post the passage then give my view: John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?" *Mosheh wrote: Deuteronomy 18:18-19, “I (YHWH) will...
  3. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Umm John/Yahanan 6:63, “It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words that I (Yahshua/Jesus) speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting.”
  4. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    John 14:23-24, "יהושע answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me.”...
  5. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    praiseYah! may He bless you and keep you! Matthew 12:50, “For whoever does the desire of My Father who is in the heavens is My brother and sister and mother.” Jeremiah 23:5-6,5 “See, the days are coming,” declares יהוה, “when I shall raise for Dawiḏ a Branch of righteousness, and a Sovereign...
  6. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    You are misrepresent what I have said. All Scripture is welcome here. I said none that disagree will discuss the Scriptures I have posted. Have you explained what Deut 18:18-19 means if I am wrong? If I am so wrong could you not easily explain what is right and is that not proper?
  7. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    So Ill take that as a no, nobody explained Deut 18:18-19? There are many Scriptures that support this, those of the 12 quote it and seem to take the same view I do. But... if nobody that disagrees with my view of Deut 18 will even discuss it and its meaning I should then continue to post all...
  8. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    So you are implying I don;t know Him... Becasue exactly why? Can you show me exactly word for word what deserves this accusation?
  9. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Can you show me a single reply that talks about Deut 18:18-19? Because that is the root of my belief in this matter, YHWH own words... How can one debate or discuss a Scriptual topic without talking about said Scripture? DO other Scriptures cancel it out so it may be ignored? See I think thats...
  10. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    I indeed do, He has sent my on an amazing journey. Jeremiah 9:23-26, “Thus said יהוה, “Let not the wise boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty boast in his might, nor let the rich boast in his riches, but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am יהוה, doing...
  11. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Still not discussing the OP, but no worries, maybe it will lead into Deut 18 and its meaing. I beleive this fully. There is no debate here Im with this, He said "He is Yah's son and the Father is in Him and He in the Father" Now I do not take the Pharisees assessment as the Messiah words or...
  12. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    but that statement you made does not in any way touch on or answer my question about Deuteronomy 18:18-19 and John 14:23-26 its meaning and effects.
  13. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Well He made a statement that the Father is greater than Him: Yahanan/John 14:28, "You have heard that I told you: I go away, but come again to you. If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I." I don;t know how this can be an...
  14. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    deny what? now your imply I dont know the Most High? I asked that we could discuss Scripture and you say this, I am very confused by this, what did I say that was wrong?
  15. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Also I want to add what I said in the OP: Biblical writer. Not equal or greater than the Father. For Yahshua Himself says the Father is greater: Yahanan/John 14:28, "You have heard that I told you: I go away, but come again to you. If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced that I am going to...
  16. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    I have understand your view since the first time you stated it, am I supposed to automatically take the same view? asking a uestion is not being hard headed and I would ask this in a Scriptual debate: If Yahshua's/Jesus words are not supposed to be above all other prophets and Scripture...
  17. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    It seems you misunderstand me or are refusing to hear me, I acknoldged thatyou disagree, what I said is there was not Scriptual debate, breakdown or discussion. Am I suppposed to now chage my view to your because you say "I disagree". If there is a Scriptual discussion and you can show me I...
  18. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    I pretty much agree with everything you said. Those learned in the Word and the Way were longing for the Messiah, His first coming was I assume different tham what pretty much everyone thought it would be, but none the less His words and truth was supreme: John 4:23-26, “But the hour is coming...
  19. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    PraiseYah! pray and study it out!
  20. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    You keep making character assements about me but have failed to speak about the Scriptures presented. Thus I don;t see how I am the "brick wall" Im saying lets talk about Deut 18:18-19, ACts 3 and 7 and what it means, you have not given your view on the meaning of those Passages. Yes you gave...