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  1. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    OK so this is a perfect example of you not debating me but kust talking at me, and I am the one who is unreasonable? What you say may or may not be so, however nothing you said touches on what I said, no acknoledgment of Mat 5:18 or Mat 7:12... I do believe we are under YHWH's Law mediated by...
  2. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Sounds to me like you just want to call me some kind of unreasonable without even giving it a chance. Do you have you own beliefs before we talk, debate, study, share, etc? Yes of course we all do. How is it that I am supposed to abandon a belief that I have soent years developing with prayer...
  3. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Yes the Law was given to Israel, yet even since Exodus Gentiles could be grafted in: Numbers 15:15-16, “One law is for you of the assembly and for the stranger who sojourns with you – a law forever throughout your generations. As you are, so is the stranger before יהוה. One Torah and one...
  4. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Well you don't know me and I have had people correct me and have thanked them for it. and e veryine has pre determined beliefs here... I dont think IM the only one... If you want to talk about an honest debate we would be debating the Scriptures dealing with the OP and any you thought applied...
  5. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    People like you speak badly of me so freely, I get called so many names here, yet can you quote a single post of mine where I have misused the word and show me my error? Because if I am not mistaken: Proverbs 10:17, "He who keeps instruction is in the way of life, but he who refuses reproof...
  6. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    If thats how you view it, I don't I can have a Scriptual debate with someone who uses Scripture and then replies to what the other presents. But honestly, most will ignore anything that goes against their belief even if it is plainly written. Also text does not in any manner convey someones...
  7. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    I was being sarcastic at the beginning... but this Forum is the BDF, I love to talk Scripture with people who will do just that, talk Scripture! Dwelling on the Word is always nice! Oh well...
  8. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    Dang! Seems you have me figured out! LOL. Well I am definitly studied in my view, thus I fully believe it. I had 2 ideas starting this thread, 1. to draw attention to the principle shown in Deut 18, Acts 3 and 7. and 2. hear others views the agree or disagree and their Scriptual reason why or...
  9. Shamah

    Are the words of the Messiah above all else?

    I was not saying nor was implying all Scripture is not inspired by YHWH, however I was saying, looking at Deut 18:18-19 as a starting point and using 2 times it was quoted in Acts to show what I believe: the Messiah, Yahshua/Jesus, is "the Sent One" we must "hear and obey" I was showing some of...
  10. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”
  11. Shamah

    Not By Works

    1 John 3:24, “And the one guarding His commands stays in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He stays in us, by the Spirit which He gave us.” Mat 22:37-40, “Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut...
  12. Shamah

    Not By Works

    your hilarious. you only quote and seemingly accept Paul wont touch a=on any verse that does not "prove" your view and could not have read my post because I did answer you: then I showed verses that show the difference between the law of sin and the Law of Yah, the Law of Yah is Spiritual, the...
  13. Shamah

    Noncononical Biblical texts

    indeed my brother Exodus 23:2, “Do not follow a crowd to do evil, nor bear witness in a strife so as to turn aside after many, to turn away from what is right.”
  14. Shamah

    Not By Works

    yep the bad mixture of Law and Mercy huh? Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the Commands of יהוה and possessing the Witness of יהושע Messiah."
  15. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Ok if it;s still there then nothing has passed rom the Law: Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected." Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first...
  16. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Cee did heaven and earth pass yet or is that still future?
  17. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Well we agree to disagree, you say I tear apart I say you "twist Paul into Lawslessness" as Peter warns. Well Yahshua says this, it is simple and clear: John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be...
  18. Shamah

    Sabbath

    Posthuman this is a good passage that shows why I believe what I believe, I know you read the word, really consider what it says: Psalms 105:6-10, “O seed of Aḇraham His servant, Children of Ya‛aqoḇ, His chosen ones! He is יהוה our Strength; His right-rulings are in all the earth. He has...
  19. Shamah

    Not By Works

    It amazing you generalize that much and conflate oral torah (tradition of man, that was counted as loss) with the Instructions of YHWH that Yahshua says WILL NEVER PASS. THe Sabbath for example is not "jewish" I bet you wont even touch this passage: Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said יהוה, “Guard...
  20. Shamah

    Not By Works

    Well I see it as a part of following Mesiah, following His Law mediated by the MEssiah: Revelation 14:12-13, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the Commands of יהוה and the Belief of יהושע. And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying to me, Write, Blessed are...