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Christ has paid the price for our sins – past, present, and future. I believe that knowing this and trusting that it is true is the only way that we will ever be achieve perfection in this lifetime. We will never be perfect in our own eyes but will be perfect in the Father's eyes because our...

A wise man once said, and I borrow it from time to time, “What we are intended to be, we have not yet become”. :)

Once again, welcome to CC! It is nice to see a young person returning to God. Everyone has their own story as to how that happens. Since I was not raised in a Christian home, I sat in church for 1-2 years before being moved by the word of God. To me it was an assurance problem. I did not...

Thanks for the reply. I see you are a new member - so welcome to CC, hope you enjoy the topics and meet many more people!

However, the comment I believe therefore that rather than undermining the case for Christ's death for His elect sheep, 1 John 2:2 actually affirms it. When we understand the verse in its Johannine context (the writings of the Apostle John) then the correct interpretation becomes very clear...

He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2 Thanks for waiting for my reply. My mouse went crazy and I have been unable to copy/paste until I could go and get a new one! I never realized how much a mouse meant to me until...

Sorry Roger but my post #6504 was meant to be a reply to you. However, my mouse has gone crazyo_O

If this text were referring to the world to come (1John 2:2), then I certainly would agree that the issues with the meaning would be resolved. However, my initial thought was that it was to include the gentiles as well as the Jews. In addition to studying your thoughts, I also did a search to...

Thank you! You have thought this out much deeper than I have. It's a lot to take in. I'm not laughing, but it will take some thought on my part. (y)(y)

Since you refuse to answer, I stand by my earlier post. Adam was given the ability to choose either good or evil. This ability was lost during the fall. Only the Spirit can restore this ability within fallen man.

Both of you are skirting the question! I'll make it simple, it is a yes or no answer.

You failed to answer my simple question!

Does having the mind of Christ enable us to believe?

Thoughts on: He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.1 John 2:2

I do not disagree with your comments. However, as part of they process of coming to Christ we receive a new heart which enables us to live for Christ.

Bring Rogerg into the question. He is very has good understanding without being an in-your-face type of person... I won't be around much until later in the day, but look forward to the discussion.

I have to admit that this part of God's word is not clear to me. I will have to give it some thought. It could mean not for the Jew only but also for gentiles. But who was the message addressed to? This will take some thought on my part!

I knew you needed no answer, just giving a proof text to support what you are saying....;)

That's exactly why I added a disclaimer to my posts!

We need to look no further than the cross itself! Luke 23 42 And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.” Only one of the two criminals was forgiven!