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Awesome morning in here with you guys! Gotta go do some work with my hands. See you later. :)

Thinking we have to complete it is not nearly as bad as thinking we can complete it.

Sure there is. He made it even more impossible for a man. He said, you have heard it said in the law, do not murder, but I say, if you have anger in your heart, you have already murdered. Before they heard that, 99% of them had "kept" the law not to murder. After they heard it, not one of them...

He is trying to say we must finish the work the Holy Spirit began in us. I think he is from Galatia.

Then He will come at you with very, very sharp pruning shears and it will hurt and will be your greatest blessing.

You mean I'm just like other men...?? I had rather supposed I was much better...:p

Then the question becomes: are you a slave of Christ because you chose Him with your freewill? Or are you a slave of Christ because He first drew you, healed your blindness, planted a seed of faith inside you, and gave you the Holy Spirit to finish the good work He began in you?

There is no law against the Spirit. If you follow the Spirit you will not satisfy the lust of the flesh.

If one follows the Spirit and walks in the Spirit, they will not have the anger in their heart that leads to outwardly murdering. If one follows the law, they will not murder outwardly and will commend themselves for following the law while inside they are filthy. If the inside of the cup is...

We don't follow the letter of the law, which leads to death. We have a new and lifegiving way of following the Spirit. He is a true jew who is one inwardly. The flesh/letter avails a man nothing. It is the spirit that avails a man. The word is spirit because God is Spirit. The words I give you...

Okay then. You think it means: but the one who remains physically alive to the end will remain physically alive to the end. I think it means: because there will be no love from men and heinousnous toward each other, the love of many will grow cold, but he who endures in love and faith in God to...

That's because you think that enduring to the end is a damnable work of the flesh. I think enduring to the end is a wonderful work of God.

It's not enough to preach forgive my enemy? Now I must DO it??! :sick:

Having a great scaffolding of doctrine isn't enough??? I actually have to be a doer of the word before men will stop scoffing at me and listen?? :eek:

I never said you could lose faith. Just because God says those who endure in trust to the end will be saved does not therefore mean that they will not endure in trust to the end...

So you are saying there is trust that your sins are forgiven and that you have eternal life. And that it is a completely different form of trust to believe every other thing He said. But I think it would be insanity to believe and trust Him that I will live forever but then to not believe and...

I think it depends on if you are looking at he who endures to the end will be saved as a command that a man must do or as a promise... But this is one thing we have never agreed on - I think one must keep their trust (faith) to the end to be saved. It is through our faith that God saves us. We...

Are you universalist?

We're just going to have to disagree. I don't think blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is rejecting the gospel. I think it is attributing the work of the Spirit to satan.

It is not by fighting to hold on to his physical life until Jesus comes again that saves a man. And He didn't give a command there. He gave a promise - that he who endures to the end will be saved. Do you think He was concerned that men be told they should strenuously fight to remain physically...