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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    the only truth in your Post 2535 are the verses you submitted: ... the rest of your post is nothing but the musings of the ... what did you call it??? ... oh yeah, "the lost religionist !" READ YOUR BIBLE!!! .
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Scripture is clear that the Lord Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world ... all descendants of Adam ... John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    yes, brightfame52 ... believers are begotten again. teachers who teach that Christ's death was insufficient to cover all the sins of all mankind are ignorant of how precious is the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. You do not believe the precious blood of the Lord Jesus Christ was sufficient to...
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    Election teaches that salvation comes from the Lord.

    yes I agree ... however, I do not believe rogerg is in agreement with your statement. rogerg can clarify if what you state is his understanding as well. yes, in agreement. If a person claims to be a born again believer ... yet is comfortable in his or her sin (i.e. is not convicted in his or...
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    Election teaches that salvation comes from the Lord.

    and yet David prayed Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me (Psalm 51:11). All sin results in broken fellowship with the Father ... The born again believer is a child of God by and through the new birth (regeneration). However, if/when the born again one...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    so true ... and I believe God has always used the foolishness of preaching to save those who believe ... from the earliest writings in Genesis. Jude 1:14 speaks of Enoch preaching Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints. In Romans 10:9 we read if you confess with your mouth...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    when Jesus finished addressing the folks who were seeking a sign from Him (Luke 11:16), a certain Pharisee besought him to dine with him: and he went in, and sat down to meat (Luke 11:37). Jesus called them (the scribes, pharisees and lawyers present) on the carpet for their hypocrisy and false...
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    Luke 11:19 - who are "your sons"?

    yes. Jesus further stated that He is the "stronger" ... and He overcame the strong man ... Luke 11: 20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you. 21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: 22 But when a stronger...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    right ... when I first brought up the record in Luke, I stated ... When Jesus told them He cast out devils with the finger of God, it was a reference to Exodus 8 when Moses told Aaron to stretch out thy rod, and smite the dust of the land, that it may become lice throughout all the land of...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    looking at the verses in Acts 19: Acts 19:11-13 And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul: So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them. Then certain of the vagabond Jews...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Comical and tragic at the same time. Tragic because these were the sons of Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests ... one responsible for teaching God's Word to the people. Yet his sons were ignorant of Scripture concerning the Lord Jesus Christ. From the record, these sons of Sceva did not...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I addressed this issue here. I do not know what article you rely on in your claim that Jesus spoke rhetorically or what reasoning the author of your article used in concluding that "your sons" are actually Jesus' followers. I do not believe Jesus would ever state that His disciples cast out...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I have read some commentaries which indicate the records in Matthew and Mark speak of the same event and that Jesus was in Galilee at the time ... and the record in Luke was a later event which took place in Judea. I believe the point Jesus makes in Matt 12 concerning satan being divided...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    I thought you did here: I do not believe Jesus would ever claim His disciples cast out devils through beelzebub. When Jesus sent 12 disciples, He gave them power to cast out devils: Luke 9:1-2 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    yes, I am interested ... and please do not think I am not interested when there is delay in my reply. I ponder the points made and I look at what is written in Scripture. My time online is limited to the morning before I go to work ... during my lunch time ... after work ... and weekends...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    there is no disagreement ... we're just discussing the record in detail. my understanding is that "your sons" refers to the sons of those to whom Jesus was speaking and I believe we are all in agreement on this point. .
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    Hi Genez ... I am the one who started the discussion relating to what's written in Luke 11. However, I don't believe it's really a "new topic" ... it's more of a detailed discussion concerning what is written in Matt 7 when the Lord Jesus Christ will say "I never knew you" to those who claim...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    ok ... for the record ... I am interested in serious discussion. I may not have the ability you have to get into Scripture in depth in context, but I am not lacking in desire to learn the truth of Scripture. I also want to make sure I understand Scripture so that when I share the Word of God, I...
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    no, you did not state that. I should have clarified that Post 6802 was my reply to studier. Apologies for any confusion due to my inadvertence ... in agreement. right ... it is an interesting point to ponder ... (to me at least :)) .
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    Predestination is misunderstood...

    interesting ... thanks for that insight ... I submitted this at Post 6802: Both Matthew and Luke record the same statement (which does not appear in Mark): Matthew 12:27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. Luke...