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You have asked me this same question many times, but because you were kind and answered my questions again, here goes: I would tell him that I believed you were the Son of God and Savior of the world, although I had not seen you, yet I believed, because the HS baptized me in the spirit and I...

NOWWHERE does the Bible say "baptized or condemned", but ONE PLACE in the Bible (Mark 16:16) says "baptized to be saved". You did a nice disortation of my post. I do appreciate your time and effort. You are knowledgeable and articulate, I just wished you were on my side on this particular...

I believe that most of those that are resurrected to damnation are Non-Born Again persons. But according to John 15:2, I believe there will be some Born-Again persons that will not produce fruit and so be resurrected to damnation also. IOW a Born-Again Christian better be willing to do the...

You are reading the scripture wrong: those taken away are not the Non-Born Again, but they are the Born Again that are taken away. How do we know this, because those taken away are those branches that are IN JESUS. Those IN JESUS can not be Non-Born Again. Therefore we must conclude that...

Again you miss the point in John 15:2. You say: Amen! In John 15:2, Jesus said "no fruit" IN CONTRAST with those who bear fruit. Not quite right. You never acknowledge the concept of being IN HIM. He said those branches IN ME (saved people are the only people that are IN JESUS) that produce...

Well, ljs, I was just paraphrasing Christ himself as he spoke in the bible. See John 5:28-29. Like me and Jesus say, belief and faith and trust are all part of the salvation process, but also part of that process is doing good things. That is why Jesus said "those who have done good, will be...

Sorry to disappoint you but I believe in Jesus, and have been baptized of the spirit and have also been baptized with water. So according to your believf system, I am saved and will be caught up in the last days just like you. See you there.

What false prophet? Are you talking about John the beloved apostles of Jesus Christ? He is the one that recorded John 15:2 from the mouth of Jesus. Are you calling Jesus a false prophet? Careful now.

We know he was allowed to go to paradise, but is paradise where heaven is. That is debateable? Remember Jesus told the theif that he would be with him in paradise and so they both went there. If paradise is heaven, that is where God himself lives. But after Jesus went to paradise and was...

As you have seen on this forum, if you are for OSAS there are scriptures that are twisted to make the OSAS position stronger. The same is true for us that do not believe in OSAS. So the complicating of the Word to the nth deptree is a problem from both sides. The problem to is the Word...

When the scripture describes in John 15:2 "branches IN HIM", I assume these branches are people that have been born again, and have had the baptism of the spirit and the baptism of water. They have faith in Jesus and are IN HIM so they are obeying his commandments. Therefore since the branches...

He said it a long time ago, I am not going back to find it. But through the months, I have referred to that statement many times and decon has not refuted it. Decon really believes that 90% of Christians are on the wrong path to EL.

Sorry, but according to the scripture, I am right. Here is the scripture: John 15 King James Version (KJV) 15 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring...

In John 15:2, Jesus is not talking about, "in the body of Christ (which usually refers to the church) under the New Covenant which was not yet fully established". It is talking about each individual that represents a branch in the vine. And more specifically it is talking about those branches...

I know that is what you believe. I and 1/2 of the other Christian population believe that you are saved only when you believe and have the Holy spirit baptism and water baptism and live the commandments, and follow what Jesus did, and love and have charity, and do good works all the days of...

Christ tells me that those branches IN HIM (saved people) who produce no fruit will be taken away. The Holy Spirit has confirmed that biblical doctrine to me. So that is why I try to be like Christ as much as I can in this world. I fall short of that goal many times, but I have the capacity...

Again in John 15:2 Jesus is not talking to self attached branches (unsaved persons). He is talking to those branches that are IN HIM (saved persons). So your last question, where did Jesus say that the only way you can be snatched out of his hand is you and your unwillingness to produce...

Robertson interjected into John 15:2 a concept that twisted the scripture to get it in line with OSAS. He introduced 2 kinds of branches. A cosmetic branch that would be taken away, and a saved branch that would not. But he got it wrong. Jesus only talked about 1 kind of branch. That kind...

All of the branches mentioned in John 15:2 are IN HIM (saved people). Jesus is not talking about cosmetic Christians. Cosmetic Christians are not IN HIM. He is talking about Christians IN HIM (saved Christians). Robertson got it wrong because he is an OSAS person and has to twist the...

Those given that produce little or no fruit. John 15:2 also says that even those that produce fruit will be purged so as to produce more fruit. IOW even those saved that produce fruit will have trials in their lives that will cause them to do 1 of 2 things: Either wither away and die unsaved...