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Please explain it again for me, I must have missed that part. It was surely not in your last post.

2 key words you leave out of every discussion of John 15:2+: They are IN HIM. Jesus is talking about those branches that are IN HIM. It does not matter whether they are IN HIM at the time he spoke it or any time later. He is speaking of all branches that are IN HIM, or will be IN HIM...

Tell me if this is what OSAS is: The second you believe in Jesus, you are saved in the eternal kingdom of God. The end. The particulars can be discussed but this is the prime event. OSAS also gets Calvinistic, in that it is not you who choose to believe or have faith or do the works, or...

Because he has said that 90% of Christians are wrong, and he mocks us at the same time. He thinks that he and his small band of OSAS are the only Christians that will be saved. So as one of the 90% of Christians that he says are wrong, I am not willing to lay down and take his word for it. We...

All of these scriptures are debatable as to whether they prove OSAS. The one that comes close is John 10:27-30. However, Jesus tells us himself that if those who are IN HIM do not produce fruit, they will be taken away by Jesus's Father, God. So apparently God can snatch them from Jesus's...

That is always your response. If they don't return, they were never really saved in the first place. That is a very soft but safe position to take. So the one that does good works (has sorrow, returns, repents, does well after returning etc. all the manifestations of good works) we know was...

What stops nominal Christians from becoming genuine Christians, it makes no sense to me.

When you say that the true eternally saved believer has already done the work of the Heavenly Father in their act of faith/belief into the FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST. It sounds like our works are done as soon as we believe. It sounds like the finished work of Christ is already done. So if the...

Good, I'm glad I got that wrong.

I agree with you that saved people can produce bad fruit on occasion, and can repent and come back to the fold, and still remain saved. So what types of works and fruits will saved people ALL POSSESS? This is a serious question, not trolling.

True eternally saved beievers have ALREADY done the work of the Heavenly Father in their act of believing. And so there is no good works to be done after you believe, because that is the work. Am I getting that right?

Why do you try so hard to get obedience and love, and works, and keeping the commandments outside the perimeter of being saved? You want to say I believe and the second I believe I am saved. Then and only when I am saved can I be obedient, and love and do good works, and keep the commandments...

If works follow the baptism of the spirit, and you find that you perform no works, then you did not receive a true baptism of the spirit. Good works is the sign that you are a true believer. Fake believers who did not have the baptism of the spirit will not be engaged in the works of the Lord...

Not necessarily. As the day goes by, you may have opportunities to witness and assist the needy. There will be many days that those opportunities do not avail themselves to you. So take the opportunity when it arises and be a happy productive Christian.

Who has ever said I will enter heaven on my own merit. Did I ever say that? That is why I am a Christian because I believe it is Jesus that ensures my entrance into heaven, not me. It is by the grace of Jesus Christ that I am saved in the KOG. All I have ever said about works is that you...

I do not pick holes in what the Lord has done. How can you pick holes in what the Lord has done. What I try to point out is the misinterpretation of what people believe the Lord has done and what people need to do to have EL.

All of the scriptures speak to me, but on a fraction of the scriptures speak to you. You have rationalized many scriptures away, because you say they are speaking to unbelievers, or make believers and so they do not aply to you, who is a true believer. This is your error. The scriptures...

Like I say, don't be worried about me. If your definition of being saved is true, then I was saved just like you were saved, and I will be there with you as we rejoice in our EL.

There are many things we agree on. We are Christian brothers.

No, we will not pay a price. We have been saved (by your own definitioin) just like you. So if your definition of saved is the truth, we will be there to rejoice with you. So don't be worried about us.