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But is it in the earliest copy that we have?

Thank you for walking in the spirit at ALL points. I do thank you. You are a good man for doing that. But you are only 1 of billions that believe that now that I am saved, I can fall (sin) and immediately Jesus forgives me and I am immediately reconciled to God again. IOW a license to sin.

We believe that the one baptism encompasses the water baptism and the baptism of the spirit, similar to Acts 2:38.

We have some 6000 manuscripts, but none of the originals, so we cannot tell if Mark 16:16 is on the original. So why bring it up? If Mark 16:16 is not in some, but is in other earlier ones, it surely becomes a sandy foundation.

Where did you read in the parable that the seed was thrown to demons who believed and trembled for a time? It doesn't, so who understand the parable? In order for you to get around Luke 8:12-13 you have confessed that John 3:16 is not true, and you have now quoted a passage from James about...

In your break down did you use the 'word' believe once? If not, then you are not teaching the truth. So all those words you cut and pasted are not telling the truth about the parable of the sower, which is proof that ES is not true. You are trying to make it prove that ES is true. It does...

Even a certain level of obedience? Wow, you have it bad. You can only obey Jesus somewhat, or you have a false gospel? Wow you are really stuck on a sandy surface. I am one of those Christians that believe that baptism of water and baptism of the spirit are both necessary for salvation...

You do not get away with that. A believer is one that believes in Jesus Christ, that he died on the cross and saved us from our sins. That is what a true believer believes. You are grasping at straws. Is John 3:16 still valid then?

Not authentic. OK if that is your stand, hope it doesn't turn out to be a sand trap. And as for that logic, since we have no original bible pages, the whole thing could be riddled with non-authentic words. Great, now what do we do?

Those verses have everything to do with salvation. Jesus says to the saved of the church of Ephesus, Repent or I will remove your candle from among the 7 other candlesticks. That means that they will be removed from EL. Is EL have something to do with salvation. Get a grip.

Wow, it just seems to me that John 3:16 means nothing to you. Explain that to me.

Slander. Please. Have you not pushed in my face John 3:16 1,000 times? I guess you have now ripped that scripture out of the bible. You whole tone changed on the word 'believe' when justpassinthrough showed you in Luke 8:12-13 that those seeds that fell on stoney ground, believed for a...

Well, let's see. Jesus is leaving a message for the 'church at Ephesus'. Not the gnostic church in Antioch. So I presume that these 7 churches had some actual believers (saved) in them. If not, then the entire church of the 1st century had no saved people. The reason you try to say that...

Lukes rendition actually uses the words 'believed for a time'. See Luke 8:12-13 especailly 13. This changes the whole scenario. Now they are believers (saved) who were on the rocky soil, and choked with weeds. So your interpretation is off. The Parable of the sower proves ES is a false...

Why, if someone is baptized, can you faith not be in God and what he told us to do? Jesus was baptized and told us to do the same. Why does this eliminate faith in God?

So now you throw away John 3:16 and believing is not enough. Is that because the parable of the sower helped us understand that even a believer can lose his salvation? Now it is all about 'faith'. What is it, belief or faith? And now abide faith, hope, and charity, but the greatest of these...

You did say that I do not know how to divide. How do you divide the word then between the law and grace? Jesus is much more into good works, in fact he never uses the word 'grace' in the NT. So do you divide Jesus's words between the law and grace?

Once again, you have been preaching that 1 second after you believe (John 3:16) you are saved. Now you don't preach that any more. Good going. You are right. You are not saved 1 second after you believe. That is just the beginning of the salvation process, not the end.

How stupid do you think I am? Believe me it is not a big blur.

You learn the difference between those who believe and immediately are saved, and those who believe and are not immediately saved. Which is it. You have preached for months that the second someone believes they are saved. Now because justpassinthrough has shown you that someone who believes...