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    Yes, and that makes some sense to me. It is almost a given that when you believe you confess. You either confess in your heart, or you confess to our brothers in the gospel. You cannot hold it within you, you must confess that Jesus is the Christ. This is a saving principal. I go a step...
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    What a horrible fake gospel it is to think that by confessing with my mouth the Lord Jesus, and that by believing in my heart that God hath raised Jesus from the dead, that I will be saved. Wow, geesh, wow, is that the most horrible fake gospel you have ever heard of?
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    If confessing that Jesus....., is considered a work, and I am doing the horrible act of adding works to Gods gift, And my belief that confessing that Jesus...., is somehow a strange belief, you seriously need to talk to a religious psychologist, and have him reset your religious paradigm...
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    It means God-inspired, or God-Whispered. It is the way God let the apostles know what to write in their letters to the church that eventually became our bible.
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    I understand what you are saying, but for our purposes we all believe that Jesus was raised from the dead. So our confession would include that. Thank you. The problem is some do not believe that confession is part of the salvation process, even though Romans 10:9-10 clearly state that it is...
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    I'm sorry TT, when the scripture says .....and you confess with your mouth, you will be saved, I interpret that straight forward. I will teach people to believe in Jesus with all their hearts and to confess with their mouths that Jesus is the Son of God, and if you will do that you will be...
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    So you consider confession "a work". Therefore it is not a part of salvation. I see now. Thank you.
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    Do you really want to set theologians against God-whispering bible verse? I don't think so. In fact the bible verse that you have quoted says the same thing as Romans 10:9. Romans 10:10 says ....with your mouth you confess and are saved. So I am not seeing how we can be arguing over Romans...
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    Well did God think of that when he God-whispered into Pauls ear?
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    Then explain Romans 10:9, which directly says if a man confess.....he will be saved.
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    Would you consider this statement: Faith, accompanied by works is the root of salvation, and the fruit is a relieved recipient of our faith/works. Our faith/works manifests itself in taking care of the poor and the hungry and the naked and the imprisoned, etc., etc., etc. The fruit is the...
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    The term "faith alone" or "faith only" is only found in 1 verse in the bible. That verse is James 2:24 and you would not want to use that verse to rest your case for 'faith alone'. So bottom line, your 'faith only' doctrine is a man made doctrine, not being found in the bible. Romans 10:9 the...
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    If you are pointing to my errors, then do it. It is difficult to come to very many extra meanings out of the 3 verses I posted. Very difficult. What meaning do you get out of them that is different than mine? That is the problem, you automatically throw up a barrier when yo see me post a...
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    This is what I said: So here are the good works that you must do according to Romans 9-10 1) believe in thine heart that God hath raised Jesus from the dead. 2) confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus. 3) call upon the name of Jesus. Your response: your vision is so clouded... from thinking...
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    So here are the good works that you must do according to Romans 9-10 1) believe in thine heart that God hath raised Jesus from the dead. 2) confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus. 3) call upon the name of Jesus. If a man does this, he will be saved. Would you agree? Now as far as Acts 26...
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    If you have overcome the world, then your conduct would be very similar to Jesus. Would you say that you live your life in a fashion similar to Jesus? If so, then you can tell people that you have overcome the world, as Jesus has overcome the world. I look forward to meeting you face to face.
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    You keep referring to the bible and how we disagree with the bible. But we do not. The verses that we quote are not from the Naturalist Papers, or the Pompey Letters, they are from the bible. If we are quoting the bible and you are quoting the same bible, then 1 of 2 problems exist. Either...
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    1 Corinthians 9:24 and Hebrews 12:1 seems to conflict with your thoughts that it is not a race. I believe the rebirth was the starting point of the race, and your death is the end of the race, and there is a lot of distance between the 2 and you absolutely need to stay on the path to the end...
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    The so-called false preachers you refer to are reciting scripture directly from the same bible you recite your scripture from. So if they are false preachers, so are you, so be careful who you brand a false teacher.
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    However, in the post you are responding to he quoted from the bible Romans 10:8-10 and Acts 26:16-20. Would you consider these words lies or is there a special place where you divide these words off and give them no value? Please for the discussion, give us your take on Romans 10:8-10 and...