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20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I...

That is actually well said. Now the question is: does one need both positional and practical sactification in order to be saved?

So you have a person saying I believe in Jesus and I am going to try to keep his commandment, and that is completely foolish nonsense to you. Are you a pastor or teacher? I suspect Jesus would say to you, much the same as he did Nicodemus that came to him at night, " Jesus answered and said...

That list would include Jesus and all of his apostles, so now you have thrown even the founder of the faith and his pillars of the faith that he chose to be in charge when he left under your bus. Good going. And you do that to keep your agenda alive that the second you believe you are saved...

Wow, you have just joined decon in throwing under the bus 90% of Christians. The Catholic church is not true, that means the Eastern churches are not true because they believe almost the same as the Catholics. Most of the protestant churches are not true because they are only micro inches...

You quote this scripture: 1 John 2:4 King James Version (KJV) 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. First of all, how do we know that someone has truly been baptized of the Holy Spirit (knows him)? The answer is: that person...

I am glad you are happy.

Thank you, good response.

So if you are invited to the wedding feast and you accept the invitation you are still considered an unsaved person?

BillG, TT says even if you get invited and you accept you are not saved. What do you think?

Ok, several facts about the virgins: 1) they were all waiting for the bridesgroom to come. Carson even suggests they may be bridesmaids who were assisting the bride, who you expect had the right credentials to show up and be recognized at the wedding feast. This means they were not party...

If you accept the invitation, does that mean you are saved?

Sure there is. The difference is this: I believe that good works are a part of the salvation process. You do not. Pretty much the end. I believe by the grace of Jesus we are saved. I trust Jesus and his promises, just like you. I have faith that he is the Christ, and I worship him for...

Yes, I believe that good works is part of the salvation process, and you do not. That is not too far apart. I just have a passionate feeling that good works is important to our salvation. You just have as passionate a feeling that good works are not important to our salvation. It is the...

I was certainly not upset about anything. VCO just said he had his invitation to the wedding feast. I just thought I would ask if he had enough oil to join the party. It was not an agree or disagree thing, like you say. It was not an upset thing like you say. Just a simple question? If...

So if you are saved by the assurances of the promises of Jesus, I agree with you. I too am saved by the assurances of the promises of Jesus. So if we are both saved, what difference does it make if our belief systems are a little different?

You might have your invitation, but will you be like 1 of the wise virgins who brought their lamps and plenty of oil so that when the bridegroom came they had plenty of oil to join the party. Or will you be 1 of the foolish virgins that only brought their lamps but not enough oil, and so when...

How do you know you are saved?

Enduring to the end means that you watch and hold stedfast, lest you fall. Lots of scriptures tell us this doctrine. I thought the church was going to be caught up to Christ and miss the tribulation problems? Can you tell me what you think?

You are correct TT, Jesus did bring a new covenant forward that replaced the old covenant.