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    If you were to have a situation in your life that made you turn on Christ and you did everything in your power to prove Jesus was a fraud, and you did this till you went to your grave, leading millions away from Jesus, would Jesus bring you into his arms and live with you eternally? My answer...
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    What a horrible, despicable doctrine you teach, and to think it comes straight out of the bible. I can't stand it. (just kidding)
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    It tells me that you are a true Christian and you too are in a position to be forgiven of all your trespasses against God. Good going, I'm glad for you.
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    Actually it is no me that says that. It has been said to this forum that the second (not the minute) you believe in Jesus you are saved forever no matter what you do. I obviously believe there is a different consequence if you die 1 minute or 1 hour, or 1 day after you are abused, but in...
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    There are a whole batch of scriptures that tell me that Jesus will never do anything that loses a person from his love and his gift of eternal life. But there are myriads of scriptures that tell us that we may turn against God and lose our gift. Do you believe that Jesus will force men to...
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    You did not die a moment after your abuse. Therefore, you have had plenty of time to forgive, which I believe you have? Am I right. So is this is a mute point?
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    It makes a difference if you have the opportunity or not to repent of your unforgiveness.
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    First of all BillG if you believe the bible is total rubbish, then this saying of Jesus is indeed total rubbish. There is more than 1 place in the bible that says if you do not forgive men their trespasses against you, God will not forgive your trespasses against Him. If you think that is...
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    To Ladybug, Very difficult to fake up fruits. That is because fruits are this: 1) the naked are clothed. Can't fake clothing someone. 2) the hungry are fed. Can't fake feeding someone. 3) the sick are taken care of and even healed. Can't fake taking care of the sick. 4) the imprisoned are...
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    We do not honor the doctrine of OSAS, but I honour you for being a brother in Jesus Christ.
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    If you die with 1 unforgiveness in your heart, it is likely that you have many more and your attitude is not right for God to forgive you of all (100%) of the trespasses you have committed against him.
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    How strange are they? You keep telling me this, and I keep trying to figure out how strange are my biblical beliefs? I believe in Jesus as my Savior. I believe that faith in Jesus is essential. I believe that it is necessary to live the commandments that Jesus taught us. I believe that if...
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    The prodical was saved. We know this because he would have inherited what the father had. Just like the other son who did not leave. An unbeliever or fake believer would not inherit. In the case of the 1 lost sheep. This was a sheep. IOW a believer that was lost and would have been dead...
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    So now the bible is not enough, you have to go to the right Christian church and get the right training in order to know that OSAS is the truth?
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    Do you really think that if someone has throat cancer and cannot speak from the mouth that God is going to not save them if they confess silently to him? For heavens sake no.
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    Ya, I probably got that wrong, but breathed and whispered is not far from each other. Sorry.
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    All I am saying at this point is, "if I confess with my mouth the Lord Jesus and believe with all my heart that God raised Jesus from the dead and I will be saved. That's it. And we cannot even agree on that because you have some notion that conessing with my mouth is a work? and therefore not...
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    Hello, moved by the Holy Spirit is another word for God-whispered, of God-inspired. It is not that far out there.
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    He will be OK because he has done the same things to be saved that you have done. His road is much harder than yours, and if yours is right, he will rejoice with you in the KOG.
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    Good question. You are saved once, but if you finally reject your gift and fall away, don't expect Jesus to finally force you to his heaven. We are saved once and then if we sin (which is a given), we go through the repentance process and get back in reconciliation with Jesus and continue to...