Artificial "requirement" [ ^
yours] stated NOWHERE in Scripture.
CONTEXT determines "where" and "in whose presence"
He [HIS "presence/parousia"] will be.
I've already pointed out, that when
WE go "
to the meeting of the Lord
IN THE AIR,"
NO ONE ELSE is involved.
[most passages speaking of the Rapture point in time, or related, use the phrase "
OUR Lord Jesus Christ /
OUR Lord Jesus," for example (the "world" is not being referenced / included, in these "Rapture"-related/and related contexts)]
And THAT ^
is distinct from the time of His "OPENLY MANIFEST / MANIFESTATION" when
EVERY EYE shall see Him.
Just as in the events we commonly call His
First Advent, shows TWO distinct "COMES"... one as a baby at Bethlehem; the other unto Jerusalem at the conclusion of the "69 Weeks" total, on Palm Sunday (commonly called His Triumphal Entry)... which point I'd made in the following few posts:
What we commonly call His
FIRST ADVENT had two "comes"... (shown to be DISTINCT, by grasping their CONTEXTS):
Post #308 - https://christianchat.com/threads/5...ure-by-dr-john-f-walvoord.198357/post-4533043
Post #47 [scroll down] - https://christianchat.com/threads/5...ure-by-dr-john-f-walvoord.198357/post-4530073
... and
Post #1812 in the "Less well-known Rapture verses..." thread (addressing you in that post)
Yet no passage STATES "
SECOND advent" (
regarding that event),
as you keep insisting.
I realize that ppl cannot fathom that "no one else" will be involved in the point-in-time (and location) concerning "
our Rapture," fancying to themselves that "surely
the entire world will HEAR 'the VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL' and the 'TRUMP OF GOD'" (or the "voice" of the trumpet, for that matter)... but they
forget that
in Acts 22:9, Paul had said, "And
they that were with me saw indeed the
light, and were afraid;
but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me."
[I've mentioned the studies showing Paul to be a "TYPE" of the future "144,000"]
So, yes, there is surely precedent in Scripture... and
"how" I believe it will take place at the time of "our Rapture," that NO ONE ELSE will be "involved" (i.e. "
HEAR" anything whatsoever! And this is part of
WHY the
2Th2:10-12 thing will be enabled
to be put into play, at that time! [
FOLLOWING "our Rapture"])