God had given us a commandment the Tithes & Offerings. How people today followed the commandment?

[Godsgood]

You better answer me this time.

Yes, or no.

Are you saying to me... That you will not learn from any teachers the Lord has given the gift to teach His Church?
That you only learn directly from Jesus?

Yes, or no.

I think we must clarify this statement:
That you will not learn from any teachers the Lord has given the gift to teach His Church?
That you only learn directly from Jesus?
Who are they and what is your basis that they are gifted from God? Kindly give me a proof.

Do you believe that Jesus can teach you directly and not using third party?

 

[Godsgood]

You have a martyr complex.

You're so funny.

 

[Dino246]

If you don't know the answer to my question then I don't know the answer in your question too.

Conditional ignorance… that’s a new way to be stupid.

I’m not going to answer your question because you are avoiding mine.

 

[Genez]

I think we must clarify this statement:
That you will not learn from any teachers the Lord has given the gift to teach His Church?
That you only learn directly from Jesus?
Who are they and what is your basis that they are gifted from God? Kindly give me a proof.

Do you believe that Jesus can teach you directly and not using third party?

After you have learned and matured in being taught sound doctrine?

Yes. He has shown me truths from time to time. Some would truths astound those so inclined.
But only after first learning sound doctrine from genuinely good pastors.
What we get dished out in most churches today is teachings like refined macaroni and velvita cheese.

If you want a good teacher is will make you have to become a full time student all over again.
Most want to take the easy way on the broad and wide way.

 

[Genez]

Conditional ignorance… that’s a new way to be stupid.

I’m not going to answer your question because you are avoiding mine.

A slight irony is afoot.
His smarts is found in how well he can outsmart those who know more than he does.

 

[Godsgood]

Conditional ignorance… that’s a new way to be stupid.

I’m not going to answer your question because you are avoiding mine.

It's okay if you don't want to answer the question.
I'm not here to convince you but to share my knowledge of truth to everyone in here as Our Lord Jesus said. You received it free then give it free.
MATTHEW 10:8
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

 

[Godsgood]

After you have learned and matured in being taught sound doctrine?

Yes. He has shown me truths from time to time. Some would truths astound those so inclined.
But only after first learning sound doctrine from genuinely good pastors.
What we get dished out in most churches today is teachings like refined macaroni and velvita cheese.

If you want a good teacher is will make you have to become a full time student all over again.
Most want to take the easy way on the broad and wide way.

In the New Testament, Scribes and Pharisees were religious leaders by that time. They teach and preach the words of God in the Temple. The Jews belief that they are gifted from God and they are Good Teachers. Because they were the doctors of the law during that time.
Ang Gamaliel is one of them.
Since there were bible schools already so Saul of Tarsus studied to Gamaliel because he believed that Gamaliel is a gifted from God and a Good Teacher And Saul became Pharisee.

ACTS 22:3
3 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

ACTS 5: 34
34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;

Would you agree with me that those religious leaders although they have good reputation were not gifted from God and Not a Good Teachers?

If you want me to answer your question directly. My answer is YES!
That you will not learn from any teachers the Lord has given the gift to teach His Church?
That you only learn directly from Jesus?

Now let's get back to my question to you.
Do you believe that Jesus can teach you directly and not using third party?

 

[Genez]

In the New Testament, Scribes and Pharisees were religious leaders by that time. They teach and preach the words of God in the Temple. The Jews belief that they are gifted from God and they are Good Teachers. Because they were the doctors of the law during that time.
Ang Gamaliel is one of them.
Since there were bible schools already so Saul of Tarsus studied to Gamaliel because he believed that Gamaliel is a gifted from God and a Good Teacher And Saul became Pharisee.

ACTS 22:3
3 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.

ACTS 5: 34
34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;

Would you agree with me that those religious leaders although they have good reputation were not gifted from God and Not a Good Teachers?

If you want me to answer your question directly. My answer is YES!
That you will not learn from any teachers the Lord has given the gift to teach His Church?
That you only learn directly from Jesus?

Now let's get back to my question to you.
Do you believe that Jesus can teach you directly and not using third party?

Good bye....

I pray you grow out of this stage you are presently being tested in.

 

[Godsgood]

Good bye....

I pray you grow out of this stage you are presently being tested in.

Honestly I don't know what you mean with this.
I pray you grow out of this stage you are presently being tested in.

As I understand you don't believe that Jesus Christ could teach you even you can't see and hear him. Perhaps it is because not in your way.
But I tell you, he could do it in his own way because nothing is impossible to God.
ISAIAH 55:8
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

And you can't deny this Truth.
JAMES 1:5-8
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

And I can give you a proof to that.

 

[Godsgood]

Good bye....

I pray you grow out of this stage you are presently being tested in.

Aa continuation. When Saul of Tarsus recognized the 1 true God and he became Paul this is what he described regarding the knowledge he learned from Gamaliel.
PHILLIPIANS 3: 7-8
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

 

[Godsgood]

Christ fulfilled the Law and Prophets for as, the people
Matthew 5:17 he came to fulfill the Law, not destroy it. He fulfilled its in John 19:30, then risen the third day where the new life in the risen Christ from God Father is offered all to choose to believe God or not
So choose I have and I bet you too, thank you

Yes Our Lord Jesus fulfill the law in Tithes & Offerings.
MATTHEW 5:17
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Even Paul and the Chosen fulfilled the law.
1 CORINTHIANS 11:1
11 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

But we never read it that they fulfilled the law in according to man's understanding as we see today.
They fulfilled it in Spiritual way.
ROMANS 7:14
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

 

[Godsgood]

After you have learned and matured in being taught sound doctrine?

Yes. He has shown me truths from time to time. Some would truths astound those so inclined.
But only after first learning sound doctrine from genuinely good pastors.
What we get dished out in most churches today is teachings like refined macaroni and velvita cheese.

If you want a good teacher is will make you have to become a full time student all over again.
Most want to take the easy way on the broad and wide way.

Being a full time student is what Saul of Tarsus did. He studied in a bible school to Gamaliel.
But it is a contrary on what Jesus showed the way.
Jesus never study in a bible school so he never be a full time student.
Jesus is not a full time in evangelism. He only share the truth when he has extra time to do it. Because Jesus has a job for living as a carpenter and this way he never ask any financial assistance to any one.
MARK 6:3
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

 

[posthuman]

Jesus never study in a bible school so he never be a full time student.

Jesus is The Author of the Bible so why does He need to full time study it lol
at 12 yeara old He is teaching the teachers of the whole nation, and they don't even realize He is teaching them ((Luke 2))

did He not understand what He wrote??

 

[posthuman]

Jesus is not a full time in evangelism. He only share the truth when he has extra time to do it. Because Jesus has a job for living as a carpenter and this way he never ask any financial assistance to any one.

until He began His ministry and started to reveal Who He really is to some people He chose to know. for the three years the Gospels describe, He is not working as a carpenter in any physical sense, but He is truly building true houses, for people to truly live in.

 

[posthuman]

Jesus is The Author of the Bible so why does He need to full time study it lol
at 12 yeara old He is teaching the teachers of the whole nation, and they don't even realize He is teaching them ((Luke 2))

did He not understand what He wrote??

@Godsgood

God being omniscient is no excuse for us to be lazy.

 

[posthuman]

I would like to emphasize who is the real Jesus recognized by the Apostles.

Oh you mean the apostles who were full time students 24hr a day with Jesus for 3 years, to whom they and they alone it was told, they didn't need man to teach them?

or do you mean you yourself, who didn't know anything unless a man wrote down the letter n the gospel and another man preached and taught it to you, after it was taught to you?

does "go and make disciples" mean to go blindly exhorting ignorance? is that what it really means to be a "disciple" - - to spurn discipline?

 

[posthuman]

Answer this question then I will answer your question.

If Jesus is just a God how do you reconcile this verse when he said, God is Good and himself is not Good?
LUKE 18:18-19
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

If Jesus is God, why he knows and can do nothing?
JOHN 5:19
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

easy.

hypostatic union.

 

[posthuman]

If Jesus is just a God how do you reconcile this verse when he said, God is Good and himself is not Good?

wow you botched that.

Jesus is not, as you say, proclaiming He is not good.

Whoever is not good, is evil.
You are saying Jesus is evil.
not cool.

Jesus is saying He is God.

... so much for the perfection-is-via-willful-ignorance position.

 

[Godsgood]

Jesus is The Author of the Bible so why does He need to full time study it lol
at 12 yeara old He is teaching the teachers of the whole nation, and they don't even realize He is teaching them ((Luke 2))

did He not understand what He wrote??

What we are referring is who is the Good Teacher today?
Jesus showed the way that he did not studied in a bible school to find a good teacher.

 

[Godsgood]

until He began His ministry and started to reveal Who He really is to some people He chose to know. for the three years the Gospels describe, He is not working as a carpenter in any physical sense, but He is truly building true houses, for people to truly live in.

We must believe those people who know him personally.
MARK 6:3
3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

Oh you mean the apostles who were full time students 24hr a day with Jesus for 3 years, to whom they and they alone it was told, they didn't need man to teach them?

or do you mean you yourself, who didn't know anything unless a man wrote down the letter n the gospel and another man preached and taught it to you, after it was taught to you?

does "go and make disciples" mean to go blindly exhorting ignorance? is that what it really means to be a "disciple" - - to spurn discipline?

All denomination in Christianity today claims that they are the truth. And each of them is showing proof written in the bible.
But we can't deny that they have different doctrines and way of salvation. Jesus would not teach different doctrines & ways because there is only one way to salvation.
How would you determine who is really in the truth?
Whom do you ask?