Grace Saves, Faith Receives, Christ Secures

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Pentecost Acts 2:38 formula: repent & be baptized isn't a universal formula.

If a salvation pattern is truly universal, it must work for all people, in all places, under all conditions. Acts 2 does not!

Acts 10:45 proves NO gentiles are saved among the 3,000 souls. Every saved person at Pentecost was under Mosaic law/covenant of circumcision.

"""Can the Acts 2:38 universal salvation promoters, provide ONE verse where a gentile is saved by the Acts 2:38 formula/sequence?"""

Acts 10 salvation formula works for all people, in all places, under all under the same circumstance/UNIVERSAL!

Acts 10:44 Based on their FAITH ALONE Jesus knows the heart of man (Matt 9:4, Jn 6:64,Acts 1:24, Rev 2:23) & baptizes these gentiles with His salvation sealing (Eph 1:13-14, 4:30, 2 Cor 1:22, 5:5) Holy Spirit-without circumcision & without water. (Only Jesus Holy Spirit‑baptizes Matt 3:11; Acts 1:5).

Hear > Believe > Receive > receive the Holy Spirit formula/sequence becomes the NT UNIVERSAL-Jew & Gentile initiation into the now newly formed Body of Christ.

1 Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
(NOTE: For by the Holy Spirit are we ALL baptized into one body > whether Jew or Gentile)

Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision "made without hands", in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
(NOTE: The NT circumcision of Christ, "made without hands." is the inward, SPIRITUAL work of the Holy Spirit)

Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
(NOTE: A circumcision of the heart, in the spirit & NOT of the LAW)

The risen Jesus chooses Paul as His vessel to carry His name to Gentiles, kings, and Israel (Acts 9:15). Jerusalem pillars affirm that Paul will go to the Gentiles while they go to the circumcision (Gal 2:9), Paul preaches the risen Christ & justification by faith apart from the Law (Acts 13:30–31, 38–39). Paul declares that the one God justifies both Jew & Gentile by faith (Rom 3:29–30). The Risen Lord sent him to open their eyes so they may receive forgiveness of sins & be sanctified by faith in Him (Acts 26:16–18).
 
FlyingDove said:
Pentecost Acts 2:38 formula: repent & be baptized isn't a universal formula.

If a salvation pattern is truly universal, it must work for all people, in all places, under all conditions. Acts 2 does not!

Acts 10:45 proves NO gentiles are saved among the 3,000 souls. Every saved person at Pentecost was under Mosaic law/covenant of circumcision.

"""Can the Acts 2:38 universal salvation promoters, provide ONE verse where a gentile is saved by the Acts 2:38 formula/sequence?"""

Acts 10 salvation formula works for all people, in all places, under all under the same circumstance/UNIVERSAL!

Acts 10:44 Based on their FAITH ALONE Jesus knows the heart of man (Matt 9:4, Jn 6:64,Acts 1:24, Rev 2:23) & baptizes these gentiles with His salvation sealing (Eph 1:13-14, 4:30, 2 Cor 1:22, 5:5) Holy Spirit-without circumcision & without water. (Only Jesus Holy Spirit‑baptizes Matt 3:11; Acts 1:5).

Hear > Believe > Receive > receive the Holy Spirit formula/sequence becomes the NT UNIVERSAL-Jew & Gentile initiation into the now newly formed Body of Christ.

1 Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
(NOTE: For by the Holy Spirit are we ALL baptized into one body > whether Jew or Gentile)

Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision "made without hands", in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
(NOTE: The NT circumcision of Christ, "made without hands." is the inward, SPIRITUAL work of the Holy Spirit)

Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
(NOTE: A circumcision of the heart, in the spirit & NOT of the LAW)

The risen Jesus chooses Paul as His vessel to carry His name to Gentiles, kings, and Israel (Acts 9:15). Jerusalem pillars affirm that Paul will go to the Gentiles while they go to the circumcision (Gal 2:9), Paul preaches the risen Christ & justification by faith apart from the Law (Acts 13:30–31, 38–39). Paul declares that the one God justifies both Jew & Gentile by faith (Rom 3:29–30). The Risen Lord sent him to open their eyes so they may receive forgiveness of sins & be sanctified by faith in Him (Acts 26:16–18).
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Since the Gentiles had faith alone and JESUS FILLED them with the spirit has JESUS filled you with HIS spirit like he did the circumcised in Acts 2:4!!!

Yea I know makes no sense to you, but still true.

Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.

HAS HE???
 
FlyingDove said:
Pentecost Acts 2:38 formula: repent & be baptized isn't a universal formula.

If a salvation pattern is truly universal, it must work for all people, in all places, under all conditions. Acts 2 does not!

Acts 10:45 proves NO gentiles are saved among the 3,000 souls. Every saved person at Pentecost was under Mosaic law/covenant of circumcision.

"""Can the Acts 2:38 universal salvation promoters, provide ONE verse where a gentile is saved by the Acts 2:38 formula/sequence?"""

Acts 10 salvation formula works for all people, in all places, under all under the same circumstance/UNIVERSAL!

Acts 10:44 Based on their FAITH ALONE Jesus knows the heart of man (Matt 9:4, Jn 6:64,Acts 1:24, Rev 2:23) & baptizes these gentiles with His salvation sealing (Eph 1:13-14, 4:30, 2 Cor 1:22, 5:5) Holy Spirit-without circumcision & without water. (Only Jesus Holy Spirit‑baptizes Matt 3:11; Acts 1:5).

Hear > Believe > Receive > receive the Holy Spirit formula/sequence becomes the NT UNIVERSAL-Jew & Gentile initiation into the now newly formed Body of Christ.

1 Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
(NOTE: For by the Holy Spirit are we ALL baptized into one body > whether Jew or Gentile)

Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision "made without hands", in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
(NOTE: The NT circumcision of Christ, "made without hands." is the inward, SPIRITUAL work of the Holy Spirit)

Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
(NOTE: A circumcision of the heart, in the spirit & NOT of the LAW)

The risen Jesus chooses Paul as His vessel to carry His name to Gentiles, kings, and Israel (Acts 9:15). Jerusalem pillars affirm that Paul will go to the Gentiles while they go to the circumcision (Gal 2:9), Paul preaches the risen Christ & justification by faith apart from the Law (Acts 13:30–31, 38–39). Paul declares that the one God justifies both Jew & Gentile by faith (Rom 3:29–30). The Risen Lord sent him to open their eyes so they may receive forgiveness of sins & be sanctified by faith in Him (Acts 26:16–18).
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Acts 10:45

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45 And the believers from among jthe circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because kthe gift of the Holy Spirit lwas poured out even on the Gentiles.

The holy spirit is poured out even on the Gentiles yet you claim NO Gentiles are saved.??????
 
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From your link

Acts 10:45

ESV

45 And the believers from among jthe circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because kthe gift of the Holy Spirit lwas poured out even on the Gentiles.

The holy spirit is poured out even on the Gentiles yet you claim NO Gentiles are saved.??????
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Shame you can't read Nedy. That isn't the Acts 2:38 Repent, be baptized to receive the Holy Spirit formula/sequence. They HEARD>BELIEVED & RECEIVED by FAITH ALONE. No repentance, no water, just belief.

I have you & other scripturally inept oneness promoters (that can't read either) on ignore. Although I do occasionally comb through threads I've placed.
 
FlyingDove said:
Shame you can't read Nedy. That isn't the Acts 2:38 Repent, be baptized to receive the Holy Spirit formula/sequence. They HEARD>BELIEVED & RECEIVED by FAITH ALONE. No repentance, no water, just belief.

I have you & other scripturally inept oneness promoters (that can't read either) on ignore. Although I do occasionally comb through threads I've placed.
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Foundation is the key, it's easy to love the ones you love but not so easy to love the ones who go against you so you block them.

Did you ever consider the ones who JESUS filled with the Holy Ghost may be right?

1. In Acts 10 why did JESUS fill them with the Holy Ghost if you only need faith to be reborn?

2. Why did Peter COMMANDED them to be baptized if you only need faith to be reborn?

Peter had the keys to Heaven and Peter knew they need BOTH, what is SAD IS YOU DON'T!!!

Can't truly answer those questions, if you can't you're wrong not others.

Keep in mind JESUS said in John 3:5 NEED BOTH TO BE REBORN.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Acts 2 Jews
Acts 8 Samaritans
Acts 10 Gentiles
Acts 19 Ephens

ALL SAME FORMULA, BELIEVE, REPENT, BAPTIZED IN JESUS NAME AND JESUS FILLED THEM WITH THE HOLY GHOST!!! PERIOD!!!

YOU are the one who is inept since you don't follow scripture at all?

I have asked you has JESUS filled YOU with HIS SPIRIT???

No need to reply if HE did you would be able to "SEE" John 3:3.

Do you have the abily to be corrected???
 
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Shame you can't read Nedy. That isn't the Acts 2:38 Repent, be baptized to receive the Holy Spirit formula/sequence. They HEARD>BELIEVED & RECEIVED by FAITH ALONE. No repentance, no water, just belief.

I have you & other scripturally inept oneness promoters (that can't read either) on ignore. Although I do occasionally comb through threads I've placed.
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I very often just skip over a lot of posters that I've noticed really don't even pay that close attention to their own writings. Because if they did, then they would have to edit accordingly when they encounter errors. But, instead, they just keep proverbially copying and pasting the same errors. This is the spirit of a lazy scholar.
 
FlyingDove said:
Shame you can't read Nedy. That isn't the Acts 2:38 Repent, be baptized to receive the Holy Spirit formula/sequence. They HEARD>BELIEVED & RECEIVED by FAITH ALONE. No repentance, no water, just belief.

I have you & other scripturally inept oneness promoters (that can't read either) on ignore. Although I do occasionally comb through threads I've placed.
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If I'm so inept why am I on your ignore list? If I were you I'd have me on it ore too.
 
FlyingDove said:
Still waiting just ONE verse:

Can the Acts 2:38 universal salvation promoters, provide ONE verse where a gentile is saved by the Acts 2:38 formula/sequence?
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All the same message and all born of water and of spirit!!

Acts 2 Jews
Acts 8 Samaritans
Acts 10 Gentiles
Acts 19 Ephens

There is ONLY ONE way to be saved!!

As JESUS says we have to be born of water and of spirit!!

I know it's a dificult to give any example with scripture of anyone or being saved by faith alone!!
 
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All the same message and all born of water and of spirit!!

Acts 2 Jews
Acts 8 Samaritans
Acts 10 Gentiles
Acts 19 Ephens

There is ONLY ONE way to be saved!!

As JESUS says we have to be born of water and of spirit!!

I know it's a dificult to give any example with scripture of anyone or being saved by faith alone!!
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Difficult as in impossible
 
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I think part of the problem is a lot of people don't really know what Grace is. They assume hyper grace I call that greasy grace.

Grace is being given the power to change, not permission to continue as you have been. Don't just read the Word. Do the word. Do what the word word tells you to do. Pursue Holiness.

If a man wants to draw closer to the Lord and walk with Him, He is a Holy God so you will have to take on His Character to be able to walk with Him. Because if two walk together they must agree

Amos 3:3
3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?.../KJV
 
When Moses turned aside to see the burning bush the Lord said, Take off your shoes for this is Holy ground. WHat's that really mean? WHat is that all about?

Your shoes represent your walk in the world. Jesus says, I will give you new shoes, I will change your life. Walk in this...and Moses did and his life did change! We have been given the power to become Sons of God.

John 1:12
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:.../KJV

The $64,000 question is, are you becoming? Are you being Transformed? If the answer is no, then you need to pursue Him more diligently and get up off the couch and go do something good. Something in God's will. Be ye Holy even as I am Holy. We must clean ourselves up and attempt to be more Holy and have the Jesus character within us. Moses did that, so he became. But for us, the Bride has made herself ready, or some will dismiss it and go watch some more porn.
 
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I think part of the problem is a lot of people don't really know what Grace is. They assume hyper grace I call that greasy grace.

Grace is being given the power to change, not permission to continue as you have been. Don't just read the Word. Do the word. Do what the word word tells you to do. Pursue Holiness.

If a man wants to draw closer to the Lord and walk with Him, He is a Holy God so you will have to take on His Character to be able to walk with Him. Because if two walk together they must agree

Amos 3:3
3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?.../KJV
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I like how you said, do the word. Is that a choice?
 
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Difficult as in impossible
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Yes Sir, impossible.

HIS word does not contadict it's self!!

WE, YOU AND I know.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

Since HE does not hear sinners!!

What do we have to do so we are not sinners and HE does hear us?

Yep, get baptized in JEUSS name which most here just REFUSE to accept and obey!!

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
 
Ouch said:
Yes Sir, impossible.

HIS word does not contadict it's self!!

WE, YOU AND I know.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

Since HE does not hear sinners!!

What do we have to do so we are not sinners and HE does hear us?

Yep, get baptized in JEUSS name which most here just REFUSE to accept and obey!!

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
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That sad part is so many people believe this faith alone thing. It's terrifying how many and they all claim to be "bible believing".
 
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That sad part is so many people believe this faith alone thing. It's terrifying how many and they all claim to be "bible believing".
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It is, Satan wins!!!

The most fought against scriputures is how we get rid of our sins, THE MOST!!

Should be the simplest to understand.

Satan's plan keep them out of the water, if they do get in the water keep JESUS name out of it.

Satan knows what happens in the water!!
 
FlyingDove said:
Still waiting just ONE verse:

Can the Acts 2:38 universal salvation promoters, provide ONE verse where a gentile is saved by the Acts 2:38 formula/sequence?
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Did you ever consider Romans 10 Paul is telling HIS church notice he startes it our with BRETHREN in veres 1???

And what Paul would like to see, them ALL SAVED.

1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Yep, Paul is telling those who have been reborn to go our and confess JESUS so they will stay saved!!

Look down farther, how can people hear without a preacher???

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

It's always to use ALL of HIS word not just one verse.
 
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