I am both a Christian and a Muslim.

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Muslim is a culture. Islam is their 'religion". Mohammed, as ruthless as he was, is their prophet, equal (in their eyes only) to JESUS CHRIST. Allah was an ancient Mesopotamian Moon god diety that required blood sacrifice. Yes, a muslim, born in the middle east or anywhere else on earth, can be forgiven of their sins, washed in the blood of JESUS and accept JESUS CHRIST as their personal Savior, but they would have to renounce islam, making CHRIST their focus. Otherwise, they are a sham, a shame and a charlatan to think they can have both.
 
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leonardronaldo

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I'm not sure how I fit in. I have faith. I walk with Jesus. I walk with Muhammad as well. I've studied many religions and have seen Jesus as Adam in all of them. So I don't understand your comment Lynx?
Which Jesus do you know? Isa alyihisalam?
With regard to muhammad, do you read the hadith and sira rasullulah about him?
 
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leonardronaldo

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you can be both ! I agree with you :)
Islam means submission to God , christian means a follower of Christ
every christian is (supposed to be ) submitted to God
ya akhi, but he doesn't acknowledge that Jesus is Lord. you can't agree with that, can you?
And an idea to remove the cross? It reminds me of what ISIS did to the churches they seized.
 

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you CANNOT practice Islam AND christianity at the same time. You cannot serve both Muhammed AND God at the same time. God said not to have any other gods before him. That includes Muhammed, who IS a FALSE god.
 
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leonardronaldo

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you dont know my language better than me ! you have no knowledge of what Islam means ,
islam means submission to God in ARABIC and muhmmed didnt clame to be the 1st muslim , Qurran stated that Abram was the 1st muslim ie: submitted to God . surah الأنعام/ 162، 163
show me where
the actions of followers of muhammed suggest that they worship him ?!

akhi, the ibrahim in the quran is not the same with Abraham in the bible.
In the bible, Abraham never was going around to seek something big to worship i.e. stars, moon, sun (Sura Al-Anam aya 75-80). lol

with regard to muhammad being worshipped: there are some hadiths which are overrule quran, doesn't that make the words of muhammad regarded as greater or at least equal with the quran?
what about the fact that muslims are praying for muhammad, though he supposed to have died (and in janna, supposedly)?
in many hadiths, you see that the followers of muhammad when they were discussing was muhammad, their typical answer is this: ALLAH and HIS MESSENGER knows better.
The requirement to become a muslim according to islam is saying the shahada, which contains allah's and muhammad's name in one sentence. he/she will not be regarded a muslim if he only says 'I bear witness that there is no god but allah'. And why must muhammad? what about other prophets and messengers?

you know arabic more than all of the chatters here akhi, press on for Christ. ;)
 
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leonardronaldo

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What a crock! That's like saying, "GOD, YOU made me be born the way I am, therefore, I will always be that way"..How silly. That gives excuse for pagans to keep on being pagan. IT offers gays the 'rite' to keep on having same sex partners, etc. What is needed here is a good JOLT from the Holy Spirit...but only if the person is willing to surrender. We see NO surrender of their will over to CHRIST here...only a weak justification to remain an islamic, claiming CHRIST too...sheesh!!!!
Islam actually means surrender, but to muhammad. Root word of islam is Aslim Tuslam, Surrender or else..! which is the content of the letters sent by muhammad to kings surrounding him at that time.
 
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One cannot be a Genuine convert to Christianity and a 'muslim' at the same Time.. noooo.. the Spirit Truth will not allow that! the muslim 'gods' are idols, devils, sorry... NOW one can be a MUSLIM and then Become a Genuine convert! oh indeed, His Work at the Bloody Tree, sufficient to pull one out of that darkness into His True Light! INdeed! those who claim both, well, they may be seeking God and God is drawing them in for True Conversion, or they were sown by the other sower, the devil, to create confusion and chaos, God Himself knows their Heart and its position! indeed!
 
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Galahad

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Tani was identified in several earlier posts as being a troll.

Here's this from her profile page:
Join Date: February 18th, 2015Last Activity: February 18th, 2015

Now go check the date of the OP.
 
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Legend has it that Saint John's head was buried there. Hearsay is not fact.
Well Of course I dunno if Moses is really inside the shrine or not but I guess I'm just trying to say hi n welcome to Tani and also to highlight that Islam is respectful to Moses whether he's really inside that burial chmaber or not your right I cant be sure.... its just what they are saying, but its reported in lots of websites and no other area is claiming he's buried elsewhere so maybe its true - but i dunno.
 
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I don't know how you can walk with Jesus and Muhammad as Islam is a return to an old covenant style religion.

From Christ we get a whole New Nature....we are born again...Do you know anyone who is born who is born of the seed of two fathers?

We fix our eyes on Jesus so when we walk in this world we are not double minded and unstable in all our ways.
 
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leonardronaldo

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I don't know how you can walk with Jesus and Muhammad as Islam is a return to an old covenant style religion.

From Christ we get a whole New Nature....we are born again...Do you know anyone who is born who is born of the seed of two fathers?

We fix our eyes on Jesus so when we walk in this world we are not double minded and unstable in all our ways.
Islam would not have fit at anytime, including in the Old Testament time. Islam fits to men with full of lust, authority, domination, and other worldly things. Don't even compare the Law with Islam.
 
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Cruisyazz

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I'm not sure how I fit in. I have faith. I walk with Jesus. I walk with Muhammad as well. I've studied many religions and have seen Jesus as Adam in all of them. So I don't understand your comment Lynx?
I find this interesting Tani.
if you love God with all your heart and love your neighbour doesn't the laws and prophets hang on these 2 fundamental rules?
these greatest commandments lead you into a relationship with God.
if you have a relationship with God your all good... Don't think it matters about this Adam thing you got going on does it?
 
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WolfGaming

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Seriously a troll.
Come on guys she is just lost and in need of help how you guys are treating this and her as if she is a troll is upsetting me we are supposed to be like Christ now ask yourself is calling a lost child of God and in need of help and payer a troll WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU????? She needs our prayers and God's love, power and grace in her life we call ourselves Christians soon act like it!!!!!
 
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They are not contradictory. I see Jesus as Messiah but even more importantly as the second Adam. If the cross is removed and we concentrate on his Adamic nature then he is the way the truth and the life. The first fruits of creation. Its that I saw in the scriptures he was adopted by God at his baptism. "Today you are my son.". So I don't see the cross as important as his Adamic being. Sent to us. The children of Adam thus unifing all mankind and faiths under Adam.
It is impossible to be a born again Christian (not a cultural one) and a Muslim at the same time. One cannot serve two masters. Jesus spoke the truth about it:

"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other..." (Matthew 6:24)

Now you have a choice before you. Will you choose to follow hesus, or will you choose the false god and idol called Allah and the false prophet, Muhammed?

Joshua 24:15
But if you refuse to serve the Lord, then choose today whom you will serve. Would you prefer the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates? Or will it be the gods of the Amorites in whose land you now live? But as for me and my family, we will serve the Lord.”
 
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WolfGaming

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It is impossible to be a born again Christian (not a cultural one) and a Muslim at the same time. One cannot serve two masters. Jesus spoke the truth about it:

"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other..." (Matthew 6:24)

Now you have a choice before you. Will you choose to follow hesus, or will you choose the false god and idol called Allah and the false prophet, Muhammed?

Joshua 24:15
But if you refuse to serve the Lord, then choose today whom you will serve. Would you prefer the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates? Or will it be the gods of the Amorites in whose land you now live? But as for me and my family, we will serve the Lord.”
I do agree but people just calling her a troll or saying it's against the rules to talk about things like that it just up sets me we should be trying to help her not show her the ugly face the world calls Christianity.