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It's a belief correction, not a literal correction. He's not attacking their actions of doing sacrifices, he's (I'm assuming the author is a he) attacking them of their belief on what saves. Sacrifices vs Jesus. Because Hebrews makes the statement that blood of animals never took away sins. Also, in Acts 21, Paul finishes a Nazarite vow which requires a sin sacrifice, and also pays for other men for theirs to prove to the Jews he still follows the law because of the rumors that Paul stopped doing it. If sacrifices abolished sin, then Paul would be in serious error here since this is after Christ.
As far as milk vs solid food, he's frustrated with their lack of growth and clearly going backwards if he has to correct them yet again. Their belief that sacrifices instead of Christs sacrifices abolishes sin, isn't a sin itself. So it has no bearing on "there's no going back". The determining factor for "no going back" is living a life of sin. It's reverting to living in the flesh, which you are supposed to crucify once you start walking with Christ. So if you are walking in obedience, taste what the Holy Spirit has to offer (which proves salvation) and then revert to a life of sin, there is no coming back from that.
It goes against Romans 8 as well. What can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus?
Regarding revelation being 'spewed out of the mouth'...
The key thing, is this is talking about not an individual, but churches. An entire local church, losing the presence of the Holy Spirit.
Not a building..but that group of saved, baptized believers. Aka Laodicia.
A group losing the presence of the Holy Spirit, is a local church dieing.
The key thing, is this is talking about not an individual, but churches. An entire local church, losing the presence of the Holy Spirit.
Not a building..but that group of saved, baptized believers. Aka Laodicia.
A group losing the presence of the Holy Spirit, is a local church dieing.
If they were sacrificing, then it's a given that they sinned, even after having tasted of the Holy Spirit which proves salvation, but that was not actually a sin as much as sin indeed.
Prov 14:12 says there is a way that seems right, but its end is the way of death, and this is repeated in Prov 16:25 so I'd be prudent to follow the Spirit of life. But I really can't see how anyone would think that sin seems right, except the entirely lost. With that said, those that entertained the idea that animal sacrifice 'seemed right' were corrected... oh dear, now I can't tell if this is the same knot or an entirely different knot. They were corrected because it was not not (stat) right?
But if that's the case, there's nothing ever wrong said about him and God never corrected him. Instead, what happened?
"The following night the Lord stood near Paul and said, “Take courage! As you have testified about me in Jerusalem, so you must also testify in Rome.”"
That instance in Acts 21 isn't the only instance Paul sacrificed as there's several other instances. Just because you think it's a sin, doesn't mean God does because otherwise, there would have been a correction.
Sorry, I'm don't think we're on the same page. I was speaking with the context of Hebrews in mind.
@Delvianna, I reviewed the referenced Acts21 and 1Cor 9:20 came to mind. Paul became a Jew to win the Jews. He became like one under the law (himself not being under the law), so as to win those under the law. So, God knew Paul's heart that did not regard the purification waters nor the sacrifices as anything to be ... what's the word I'm searching for? it might take me a minute to find the exact one that expresses my idea, but it'll bug me until it fully crystalizes. It might even be a certain phrase I'm reaching for
Ok, yes... I do want to use the word that came to mind, but was apprehensive in employing it as I anticipated the forthcoming outrage but, yes, definitely, after looking up its exact definition:
transitive verb
1
: to regard with reverential respect or with admiring deference
2
: to honor (an icon, a relic, etc.) with a ritual act of devotion
God knew Paul's heart that did not regard the purification waters nor the sacrifices as anything to be venerated as anything above the mere representation of the reality of the true Christ.
Paul didn't "become a Jew", he was born a Jew. He's a Pharisee. Hence how he was able to persecute Christians before his encounter with Christ.
His Hebrew name: Sha'u
His Roman name: Paulus
He's Jewish by ancestry and by religion, but was born in a Roman province, which is why he's a Roman citizen too.
19For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; 20and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; 21to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; 22to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak.
Yeah, this was an important teaching. Even though Paul understood his old man (a Jewish man by flesh and tradition) was buried and dead, he could participate in those traditions without maligning his current state as a new creation in Christ.
No, we are to be water baptized because Jesus said we should be water baptized.
Those who know the Lord and are being led by His Spirit will be eager to obey the Lord and will get water baptized and then they can get filled with the Holy Spirit due to loving the Lord enough to want Him to be their LORD and not just Savior only so they can keep the door open to engaging in a little sin every now and gain.
Water baptism and being baptized in the Holy Spirit (filled with the Spirit) are both needful.
And yet your so called "Occasional stumbles" are in fact sowing to the flesh which makes one corrupt.
If they do not confess and forsake their sin then they are back on the hook for their sin because God is not mocked, we shall reap what we sow, The people falsely claiming it's all good as long as we only sin occasionally are speaking for the devil and helping demons teach people that a little sin is not big deal and doesn't effect salvation
If they continue returning to that sin again and gain then yes they are living in sin and are not being led by the Holy Spirit and instead are being deceived by demons who are able to continually entice them back in to doing sinful things.
1 John 3:7
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that DOES righteousness is righteous, even as he is
righteous.
Galatians 5:16
Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
They need to repent and learn what 2 Peter 1:4 is speaking of and walk in victory over sin. (stop it)
2 Peter 1:4
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers
of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
1 Corinthians 15:34
Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
Galatians 5:24
they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Those that have not crucified the flesh are refusing to submit to the Lord and instead are still playing with sin and playing with devils who keep coming back around to lead them in to sin and they submit to demons and go do sin.
1 John 3:8
He that committeth sin is of the devil
John 8:34
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Those that have not crucified the flesh are refusing to submit to the Lord and instead are still playing with sin and playing with devils who keep coming back around to lead them in to sin and they submit to demons and go do sin.
1 John 3:8
He that committeth sin is of the devil
John 8:34
Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
No.
John was the son the priest Zechariah (a Levite). So, by the Law, he was able to be a priest. John also had taken the vow of the Nazarite. This was a strict code of obedience and behavior that demonstrated an additional level of dedication. He was, in effect, a super-priest (if you will).
Jesus was the Lamb of God. All sacrifices needed to be inspected by the priests before they were offered to God.
When Jesus told John to baptize Him “to fulfill all righteousness” He was talking about the ceremonial law of inspecting the sacrifice: the priest (John) must inspect the Lamb (Jesus). In the ceremonial Law, the sacrifices were washed and presented without spot or blemish. Jesus, a living sacrifice, was washed in this same way. John, accepting the sacrifice as worthy, washed Jesus in the water. By this, both men, John and Jesus, fulfilled the righteous requirement of the Law.
However, water baptism is important and every believer should receive it.
Yes.
Feel free to ignore Jesus' instructions and see where it leads to.
Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Acts 2:37.38
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Colossians 2:11-13
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
That's an easy question to answer Cameron.
If a person after receiving the Holy Spirit then lives the Christian life sitting on the fence, you will disqualify yourself
from salvation.
Revelation 3:16
So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth.
If a Christian is putting to death the deeds of the flesh and living by the Spirit you will live.
Romans 8:12-14
So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— for if you are living according
to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For all who
are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
You must read the whole of chapter (Romans 8) and not cherry pick verses to support a divine Determinism.
Perhaps you should read the passage again. Last time I read it, it said nothing could separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus. Perhaps the on the fence was never in Christ.
Besides, @Aaron56 agreed with me so I must be right.
“As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love." - John 15:9-10
Jesus himself would disagree with you. So I guess which is more important? Aaron56's agreement or Jesus?
