My wife and I
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Its no point to tell the other party that what they believe is wrong and yours is right. In this case, you will get rebuke, argument, self justification etc... Its so unhealthy.
I would suggest that you show your wife what it means to be like Jesus. in you. When she saw it, she will notice she is in the wrong. Jesus always win every battle. It is we, our conduct that fail Him.
I would suggest that you show your wife what it means to be like Jesus. in you. When she saw it, she will notice she is in the wrong. Jesus always win every battle. It is we, our conduct that fail Him.
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Chuckt
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So just to educate myself, i Google Seventh Day Adventist and according to what I read, they believe in literal 6 day creation, they believe in the Divinity of Jesus Christ, they are against homosexuality, so they believe the basic biblical principles that most Christians believe. The only major difference is that they worship on Saturday instead of Sunday. I do not see how this constitutes a cult
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AuntieAnt
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I've been reading your responses to folks the past week and you certainly speak from a heart of genuine compassion. It blesses my heart how Jesus shines in you.
If you love her, let her have her sabbath.. Do you think Jesus would condemn someone for finding their sabbath rest on Saturday, over someone who goes to church on Sunday? Let it go, because it sounds like you both need more rest from each other than you do from work . You have more in common than you do differences, so fighting over which day to rest kind of defeats the whole notion of 'rest'. Give the argument a rest and you'll both find rest.. jmo
. You have more in common than you do differences, so fighting over which day to rest kind of defeats the whole notion of 'rest'. Give the argument a rest and you'll both find rest.. jmo
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ggs7
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Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
It almost depends on which branch of the SDA you're dealing with.
Some branches hold very tightly to the teachings of Ellen G White who was one of the founders of the SDA, the big problem there if you study up on her writings she was very clearly a false prophet by biblical standards in that she made multiple prophecies about the return of Christ none of which came to pass. Also among the teachings of Ellen White (she was a prolific writer) are direct contradictions to scripture, contradictions to herself, and a whole bunch extra biblical doctrine. Those branches hold to Ellen above scripture just as much as the Mormons hold to Joseph Smith above scripture. In the case of these branches I would have no problem labeling them as a cult.
Some branches have distanced themselves from the teachings of Ellen White, but they can tend to be highly legalistic.
The SDA is a cult because Ellen White claimed to have had visions of an angel giving her another gospel, which as we know from the Bible is Satan's modus operandi for creating false prophets. SDA is more comparable Islam or Mormonism than Christianity.
Yea, but SDA is not a Christian denomination, that's its origin, that's its purpose.
I'm not sure that I would consider any denominations as being truly Christian. I do believe, however, that there are true Christians in any denomination.
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NewWine
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So, let me understand this....you attack her friends online, so they don't like you and defend her, you rip things off the walls that she thinks is important, because they aren't "biblical", you demean her beliefs calling them a cult....I am waiting or you to say when you actually love her as Christ loves you...or at all?
It says in Romans 14 that what day she considers holy doesn't matter as long as she sets her days to God. And you should do the same. Really, if you choose to love her (remember God IS Love) then you CHOOSE to love ALL of her, not just some parts which you think are approveable. ALL of her, because those differences you two share, are part of what makes her the amazing woman with whom you CHOSE to share the rest of your life.
My advice, based SOLELY on YOUR words is: Go back and apologize to your wife for your disrespect to her both directly and indirectly though disrespecting her friends.
Peace!!
It says in Romans 14 that what day she considers holy doesn't matter as long as she sets her days to God. And you should do the same. Really, if you choose to love her (remember God IS Love) then you CHOOSE to love ALL of her, not just some parts which you think are approveable. ALL of her, because those differences you two share, are part of what makes her the amazing woman with whom you CHOSE to share the rest of your life.
My advice, based SOLELY on YOUR words is: Go back and apologize to your wife for your disrespect to her both directly and indirectly though disrespecting her friends.
Peace!!
It's true in our time most the denominations are fallen. Nevertheless you can't be a Christian and be a muslim and at the same time, likewise you can't believe in a false prophet like Ellen White and also believe in the true prophets of the Bible that forewarned of the rise of such cults and false religions. A choice has to be made, and sadly people don't like making choices.
Now thinking on this somewhat, I don't fault you at all for tearing down Ellen White stuff. Nevertheless as you rightly say divorce is no good. I think you as the man are more than entitled to lead your household and to cast out SDA stuff.
I would think to keep trying to keep your marriage together in hopes your wife may be won over too and that both of you can live happily together. Yet no man can be certain to save his wife. If the unbeliever departs it's no fault against you, but don't give up just yet, keep trying, and I will hope the best for you both in Jesus no matter what happens.
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Do all SDA believe Ellen was a prophet? It sounds like the assumption is about the same thing as saying all Catholics believe in transubstantiation. It is part of the doctrine, but most Catholics don't believe it anyway.
There's supposed-to-believe and do-believe.
And why are we judging a wife who never came here when it's obvious the husband is the one who needs to repent, (and never came back once he figured out we're not agreeing with him 100%.)
Yes, Ellen White and her teachings are the origin of the SDA cult, without them the SDA is not the SDA. This is why SDA cultists reference her so much.
EDIT: Also the husband here has done nothing wrong. I would hope his marriage can be salvaged too, but it's not wrong to want your loved ones to escape from a pagan cult or to wonder if that is not possible if one themselves should escape.
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I might like to think this could work; YET TOO MUCH has gone wrong. Yes; I just about HAVE washed my hands of her. I'll be leaving her; at least for a matter of months; and that does mean even she and I DO divorce, and if I can never meet a new person again for a very specific reason.I would love to believe that through LOVING actions you could win back the heart of your wife, and enter into a relationship of worship, prayer, and friendship again with her. I don't doubt that it would take time.....but from your orriginal post, it sounds as if maybe you have already washed your hands of the situation.That made me sad to read that.
Have you ever heard of The Love Dare? Its associated with the movie Fireproof. If you are not familiar, could you take the time to check them out. Pray over the situation and see if you would be willing to love your wife in a completely unselfish way as The Love Dare speaks of...and then maybe she would be open to maybe hear you on quotes she has hung up that your not crazy about, or other such things.
Just some thoughts. Best for you and her as you move forward in this. Blessings!
This morning her car keys were missing; and she blamed me, pretty much because I took down her Ellen White quote at her pantry. This last weekend at my NG armory; I had a female colleage "bean dip" me. Thats' as in to do my nipple area, like a light switch. My wife insists this is no different than cheating; which I completely disagree. And she insists that I gave her the right, as of now, to fool around on me. I didn't "fool around" on her; that's not cheating. And that's going to be last drills dumb joke; that I'm not doing again.
She now accuses me of calling her church, really what it is; a devil church.Too much is wrong with us anymore. I've concluded either I'm not fit to be married; or I'm not fit to be married to HER! She's giving me soooo many accusations over the years anyway. I'm about to tell her; "BYE!"