Nephilim Created Dinosaurs? Righteo then.

[Tintin]

Can't you SEE my hands waving in the air, "I KNOW, I KNOW!!!!

The atmosphere was different back then, and the oxygen level was different. A Japanese scientist discovered a place where air had been trapped from those times, so he tested the air and then could duplicate it. They planted a patio tomato plant in air like it was, the tomato plant grew to a huge bush. They now use air like this in hospitals in tanks called hypobaric oxygen tanks, and it does wonders for curing burns and wounds. This is why people back then lived such long lives, the flood changed the atmosphere and soon after the life span was less.

This is why dinosaurs grew so big and so did plants, so they are a source of our oil.

Case solved.

It could be that we are not God, so there are many mysteries that God isn't solving for us, God gives us just the answers we need.

RedTent, thanks, mate. That's very interesting. It sounds like it could be a contributing factor to long ages but I think there would be other factors also involved. As for dinosaurs, I think God just created some of them to grow to large sizes.

 

[mxyzptlk]

I recently came across this theory that dinosaurs weren't created by God but that they were genetically-engineered by Nephilim. Personally, I believe God created dinosaurs (and similar extinct creatures) roughly 6,000 years ago. Where do people even find a smattering of biblical evidence for beliefs about Nephilim manipulating the DNA of creatures to create dinosaurs? Yes, dinosaurs were weird-looking and some were huge and others dangerous, but that doesn't mean God didn't create them. I Googled this topic and only found crack-pot conspiracy pages and the first entry on Google (GodLikeProductions) bans ISPs from the word get-go (they must be preserving the truth - lol). Is this a well-known belief? Has it been around long? Also, where's the 'evidence'? Thanks

Nostradamus has his own interpretation, I have my own interpretation.

Nostradamus's Preface to César - Excerpt


But after being surprised sometimes by day while in a trance, and having long fallen into the habit of agreeable nocturnal studies, I have composed books of prophecies, each containing one hundred astronomical quatrains, which I want to condense somewhat obscurely. The work comprises prophecies from today to the year 3797.

the Golden Age shall return, and after all calculations, with the world near to an all-encompassing revolution - from the time of writing 177 years 3 months 11 days - plague, long famine and wars, and still more floods from now until the stated time. Before and after these, humanity shall several times be so severely diminished that scarcely anyone shall be found who wishes to take over the fields, which shall become free where they had previously been tied.

Lamech's Death (Father of Noah) to 9/11/2001 Terrorist Attacks = 3797 Years + (Daniel 12:13) 13 Years and 12 Days = (Solstice 9/23/2014) 3810 Years Total.

6001 Total Age of the Earth - 2014 A.D. = 3987 Years Total

3810 Years + 177 Age of Lamech Noah's Father = 3987

Book of Daniel Figures and Salvation (One Blood Line)

2300 (Noah Salvation) + 1290 (Moses Salvation) + 1335 (David Salvation) + 1075 (Antichrist in Flesh Salvation) + 1 Satan (Antichrist as an Alien) = 6001 or 6000 years + 5 Months Flood of Noah + 5 Months Cosmic Shift in Revelations.

Nostradamus is teaching something about the Dinosaurs

They existed in another dimension and something like 177 Earth Years passed, but time is a variable we just have seen it in this form only.

 

[MidniteWelder]

Can't you SEE my hands waving in the air, "I KNOW, I KNOW!!!!

The atmosphere was different back then, and the oxygen level was different. A Japanese scientist discovered a place where air had been trapped from those times, so he tested the air and then could duplicate it. They planted a patio tomato plant in air like it was, the tomato plant grew to a huge bush. They now use air like this in hospitals in tanks called hypobaric oxygen tanks, and it does wonders for curing burns and wounds. This is why people back then lived such long lives, the flood changed the atmosphere and soon after the life span was less.

This is why dinosaurs grew so big and so did plants, so they are a source of our oil.

Case solved.

It could be that we are not God, so there are many mysteries that God isn't solving for us, God gives us just the answers we need.

Actually I read this same thing.
another experiment was they put a poisonous snake in a barometric chamber with the same theorized oxygen level at the time before the firmament let go its water with the first rain during Noah.
If it had never rained yet, obviously the oxygen level was different...theorized at about 40% compared to 20% now.
anyway, they found in this condition the poisonous snake was actually very docile.
The theory of an almost double oxygen level back then and the fact that our bodies process oxygen to operate, heat itself, etc coupled with the fact humans lived about 900 years or so...
sure seems to raise question in my mind the whole anti-oxidant thing we keep hearing about in the last 10 years or so.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Continued (Edits)

Time Shifted the last 177 years of Lamech's Life, Noah's father. The Dinosaurs experienced time like we experience today for only 177 years and then they died. Nostradamus makes two divisions in his timeline, the Dinosaurs and Thirteen Years from the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks to the Cosmic Shift.

I used to hold that the Annunaki Aliens came to the planet earth for 200 Years (Moses and David's Life time Total Since this was the salvation period in the Old Testament since the Flood of Noah). However, Nostradamus may be more correct and this may infact be 177 years 3 Months and 11 Days.

177 Years Time in the Earth shifted with the dinosaurs before they perished = 177 years of the Annunaki Alien Experience with the Ancients


Marduk Slaying Tiamat, can be seen as Noah Slaying the Dinosaurs. The Ancients connected the period of the Annunaki visitation to the length the Dinosaurs spend in our Earth's current Time expression to the Flood that exterminated them.

Mayan Calendar Creation 3114 B.C.
Jemdet Nasr period 3100 - 2900 BCE is an archaeological culture in southern Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq) that is generally dated to 3100–2900 BCE (this period is associated with the discovery of writing and other advancements - (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemdet_Nasr_period)

3114 B.C. to 2937 B.C. Annunaki Experience 177 Years. The Aliens that are building the 13 Cities to contain a population of about 8 million person's each (this follows our law, but I will have the tools provided by the universe as apart of an official presentation in the near future), will also monitor and encourage the peace of the people for 177 Earth years, seen against the duration of the year in the new earth, not adjusted to compensate. So we have clarified the law a tiny bit more, this is good news.

September represents the end of the "Ceasing Campaign" we have to tolerate faithfully, it is only temporary. In the eyes of Nostradamus. Now the month of May deals with the Flood of Noah, and possibly with the Annuaki Aliens, but a considerable number of astronomical and game changing shifts have taken place that has made september more significant, then anyother month for the Cosmic Shift.

 

[Sjwho2]

Admittedly, there are some biblical creation supporters who aren't qualified to speak about such things but there are quality ministries that do a great job of explaining such a view - CMI (Creation Ministries International), AiG (Answers in Genesis) and to a lesser degree ICR (Institute for Creation Research). I don't think you're giving their view the time of day, a chance to have a voice. It's not that we don't trust science, we don't trust the worldview by which they perceive everything they study, observe, and make up stories (yes, origins is history-based, not science). It's silly that they can't tell the difference between origins and observational science. Dinosaurs in the evolutionary framework of millions of years and evolution are an attack on Christianity but not with a biblical creation understanding. Remember you need to give something the time of day before dismissing it outright. As for me, I'm of the understanding that we should hold Scriptures above Science. The Scriptures should be used to make sense of everything in life, not Science. That's not its role.

Well I can answer this pretty easily. Science does not take text as proof of an event that we should be able to scientifically examine.

If you claim X event happened(like the flood for instance). There is no proof that it did, and there should be if it indeed did happen that way, then science tosses it aside. No proof of claim when there should be, makes claim invalid.(pretty simple).

If you have a problem with science as a whole though then I hope God will help you, because denying the scientific process is to deny reality really.
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Anyway on this:

"As for me, I'm of the understanding that we should hold Scriptures above Science. The Scriptures should be used to make sense of everything in life, not Science. That's not its role.

[video=youtube;MrI5WQ4u7MY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrI5WQ4u7MY[/video]

It's a good educational video.

 

[Timeline]

Well I can answer this pretty easily. Science does not take text as proof of an event that we should be able to scientifically examine.

If you claim X event happened(like the flood for instance). There is no proof that it did, and there should be if it indeed did happen that way, then science tosses it aside. No proof of claim when there should be, makes claim invalid.(pretty simple).

If you have a problem with science as a whole though then I hope God will help you, because denying the scientific process is to deny reality really.
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Anyway on this:

[video=youtube;MrI5WQ4u7MY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrI5WQ4u7MY[/video]

It's a good educational video.

No, scientists make up reasons that sea shells are at the tops of most of the mountains in the world - yes, even the tallest!
Uh, the monkey men put them there.

 

[Timeline]

Yes, I know that they don't claim that the monkey men put them there, but they have a different reason for every mountain range. Mostly involving tectonic plates and billions of years

 

[Tintin]

Well I can answer this pretty easily. Science does not take text as proof of an event that we should be able to scientifically examine.

If you claim X event happened(like the flood for instance). There is no proof that it did, and there should be if it indeed did happen that way, then science tosses it aside. No proof of claim when there should be, makes claim invalid.(pretty simple).

If you have a problem with science as a whole though then I hope God will help you, because denying the scientific process is to deny reality really.
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Anyway on this:

[video=youtube;MrI5WQ4u7MY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrI5WQ4u7MY[/video]

It's a good educational video.

I'm not denying the scientific process. Both worldviews have the same evidence but they have different beliefs that they bring to the evidence. Observation science is very different to that of Origins. I think you're being very unfair. There's plenty of evidence for the Flood. There's absolutely no evidence for uniformitarian beliefs or evolution.

 

[Tintin]

Continued (Edits)

Time Shifted the last 177 years of Lamech's Life, Noah's father. The Dinosaurs experienced time like we experience today for only 177 years and then they died. Nostradamus makes two divisions in his timeline, the Dinosaurs and Thirteen Years from the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks to the Cosmic Shift.

I used to hold that the Annunaki Aliens came to the planet earth for 200 Years (Moses and David's Life time Total Since this was the salvation period in the Old Testament since the Flood of Noah). However, Nostradamus may be more correct and this may infact be 177 years 3 Months and 11 Days.

177 Years Time in the Earth shifted with the dinosaurs before they perished = 177 years of the Annunaki Alien Experience with the Ancients

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Marduk Slaying Tiamat, can be seen as Noah Slaying the Dinosaurs. The Ancients connected the period of the Annunaki visitation to the length the Dinosaurs spend in our Earth's current Time expression to the Flood that exterminated them.

Mayan Calendar Creation 3114 B.C.
Jemdet Nasr period 3100 - 2900 BCE is an archaeological culture in southern Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq) that is generally dated to 3100–2900 BCE (this period is associated with the discovery of writing and other advancements - (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemdet_Nasr_period)

3114 B.C. to 2937 B.C. Annunaki Experience 177 Years. The Aliens that are building the 13 Cities to contain a population of about 8 million person's each (this follows our law, but I will have the tools provided by the universe as apart of an official presentation in the near future), will also monitor and encourage the peace of the people for 177 Earth years, seen against the duration of the year in the new earth, not adjusted to compensate. So we have clarified the law a tiny bit more, this is good news.

September represents the end of the "Ceasing Campaign" we have to tolerate faithfully, it is only temporary. In the eyes of Nostradamus. Now the month of May deals with the Flood of Noah, and possibly with the Annuaki Aliens, but a considerable number of astronomical and game changing shifts have taken place that has made september more significant, then anyother month for the Cosmic Shift.

Um. No. Marduk was Nimrod/Gilgamesh not Noah. Also, Tiamat was a monstrous personification of Chaos. The rest of your post is speculative fiction, not fact.

 

[RedTent]

Actually I read this same thing.
another experiment was they put a poisonous snake in a barometric chamber with the same theorized oxygen level at the time before the firmament let go its water with the first rain during Noah.
If it had never rained yet, obviously the oxygen level was different...theorized at about 40% compared to 20% now.
anyway, they found in this condition the poisonous snake was actually very docile.
The theory of an almost double oxygen level back then and the fact that our bodies process oxygen to operate, heat itself, etc coupled with the fact humans lived about 900 years or so...
sure seems to raise question in my mind the whole anti-oxidant thing we keep hearing about in the last 10 years or so.

I spent two hours a day for 45 days in a hyperbaric oxygen tank. The ulcer on my leg was 2 1/4" around and to the bone, caused by veins that did not return blood supply. Nothing worked to heal it, and I was facing amputation of my leg. This therapy healed it.


Most biblical scholars think there was a vapor canopy over the earth before the flood. Certainly the atmosphere was very different from ours today.

 

[Sjwho2]

I'm not denying the scientific process. Both worldviews have the same evidence but they have different beliefs that they bring to the evidence. Observation science is very different to that of Origins. I think you're being very unfair. There's plenty of evidence for the Flood. There's absolutely no evidence for uniformitarian beliefs or evolution.

Please explain what the difference is between observational science and origins.
Uniformitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- There's no evidence that it uniformitarianism works? I don't think you understand the concept or why people have any issue with it. It does not apply to creationism.

Regarding the flood: I can disprove it, but would rather you provide proof beforehand.

Also there is no evidence for evolution? Are you serious or just playing here? Surely you aren't one of those ignorant people who thinks evolution is "just a theory".( I had such high hopes).

No, scientists make up reasons that sea shells are at the tops of most of the mountains in the world - yes, even the tallest!
Uh, the monkey men put them there.

Sarcasm? Because it's either that or complete ignorance.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Um. No. Marduk was Nimrod/Gilgamesh not Noah. Also, Tiamat was a monstrous personification of Chaos. The rest of your post is speculative fiction, not fact.

theolduvaigorge.tumblr.com/post/51977069046/hand-paintings-and-symbols-in-rock-art-the

NEHEMIAH 7:45 The porters: the children of Shallum, the children of Ater, the children of Talmon, the children of Akkub, the children of Hatita, the children of Shobai, an hundred thirty and eight.
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Bradshaw Rock Paintings ... Alan Watchman posits that the red paint used on a tasselled Bradshaw image near the Drysdale River is "likely to be only about 3000 years old" (Watchman 1997: 42) and using the AMS results from accreted paint layers containing carbon associated with another figure gives a date of 3880 BP Bradshaw rock paintings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3987 B.C. - 177 Years (Time Shifted) = 3810 B.C. Noah's Flood

We see in the Book of Nehemiah the description of "The Porters" or Portal/Gatekeepers along with a numeral figures of 138, like the significant figures in 3810 B.C. ... The Petroglyph that records the Arrival of the Aliens around 3880 B.C. shows the Aliens coming out of a portal you can see to the right center, of a man appearing out of a sphere or gateway. What appears to be a dinosaur in the lower left side.

 

[Brother_Don]

only the Creator can create life i believe. if the dino's breathed, and blood ran through them, then only God could have created them. satan has tried to imitate creating life, but always using something that God has already put the breath of life in, or just life. mankind has crossbred animals, plants, and things to bring about new creation, but has never created life.

 

[ji]

theolduvaigorge.tumblr.com/post/51977069046/hand-paintings-and-symbols-in-rock-art-the


3987 B.C. - 177 Years (Time Shifted) = 3810 B.C. Noah's Flood

We see in the Book of Nehemiah the description of "The Porters" or Portal/Gatekeepers along with a numeral figures of 138, like the significant figures in 3810 B.C. ... The Petroglyph that records the Arrival of the Aliens around 3880 B.C. shows the Aliens coming out of a portal you can see to the right center, of a man appearing out of a sphere or gateway. What appears to be a dinosaur in the lower left side.

Its not extra terrestrial,its extra dimensional...fallen angels..that's why they use portals...

 

[mxyzptlk]

Its not extra terrestrial,its extra dimensional...fallen angels..that's why they use portals...

The Rising of Lazarus by Benjamin Gerritsz Cuyp (1612 - 1652) Benjamin Gerritsz Cuyp The Raising of Lazarus Painting Reproduction On Artclon For Sale | Buy Art Reproductions The Raising of Lazarus

LUKE 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
LUKE 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
LUKE 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
LUKE 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that [would come] from thence.
LUKE 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

(Nostradamus puts more emphasis on the September Solstice then the Galactic Alignment with the Dark Rift in the Center of our Galaxy as the Great Golf - Lets use this interpretation for the moment - (There is a shiny alien head in the upper left, and a dinosaur head in the lower right (to the right of the blue beam striking Lazarus Clothed in White))

Luke 16:20 - The Aliens 177 years 3 Months 11 Days in Ancient Mesopotamia
Luke 16:21 - The Dinosaurs (Dogs) 177 years 3 Months 11 Days after Time Shifted concluding with the Flood
Luke 16:22 - 9/11/2001 The Tribe of Dan choose the Richman as the Attack Target, 9/26/2013 The Tribe of Dan choose Lazarus (the antichrist) as the Attack Target.
Luke 16:26 - The Aliens Assist man in the New Earth for 177 years 3 Months 11 Days, in the Golden Age
Luke 16:28 - 177 years 3 Months 11 Days + 177 years 3 Months 11 Days + 177 years 3 Months 11 Days = 531/153 Days or 5 Months, 9 hours and 33 minutes. Total time for the Cosmic Shift beginning with the Galactic Transportation of the Antichrist by the Blue Beam.

 

[Sjwho2]

only the Creator can create life i believe. if the dino's breathed, and blood ran through them, then only God could have created them. satan has tried to imitate creating life, but always using something that God has already put the breath of life in, or just life. mankind has crossbred animals, plants, and things to bring about new creation, but has never created life.

I wonder what's going to happen when science finally does create sentient life.

 

[ProphetExcalibur]

Great Thread Tintin!
It brings the good the bad and the ugly out to play, I love reading their posts!
It's hard to imagine what went on 6,000 yrs ago; or several million years ago!
Cause most people as hard as they may try, can't understand what really happened about 2,000 yrs ago!

I am an old Creation theorist, not a young Creation one as you are;
I believe God created these creatures because He damn well wanted to, and could!
These creatures lived a long time and did not dwell on this earth with the Adamic man!
Anyhow, it's fun to run these theories out to their end conclusions, anyhow you slice it!

Some very entertaining theories!
just some of my thoughts

 

[mxyzptlk]

only the Creator can create life i believe. if the dino's breathed, and blood ran through them, then only God could have created them. satan has tried to imitate creating life, but always using something that God has already put the breath of life in, or just life. mankind has crossbred animals, plants, and things to bring about new creation, but has never created life.

Evil Eye Mosiac from Antioch (Roman - Era)

LUKE 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
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MATTHEW 21:19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.

The Tribe of Dan often pictured by unclean animals in the bible, sometimes referenced with or described as Camels. Demonstrates that the Evil Spirits often dispute the Body of Moses, that is the law that is designed to give mankind equality with god. The Eye of Horus, was often pictured as the mechanism of equality, or the Holy Spirit. The bible Says "Its easier for Camels to go to the Eye of the Needle", its talking about self extermination, suicide, marked by destruction of the earth, and the gospel or the Law of Moses. Now the bible also says that its "impossible for the richman to enter into the Kingdom of God", if the sons of man are spiritually rich, then they cannot inherit the Gospel man is given. But, if mankind is the richman, his strength is the gospel, and his reward is the Eye of Horus or the Holy Spirit, that has not given itself to the unclean spirits.
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Dozens of people saw Jesus cast out evil spirits, and they thought that Jesus must also be the King of Evil spirits, and therefore the head of the Tribe of Dan. ... ... ... ... however Jesus saw a cross that was never used for crucifixion, that was not used for so long that it had fig leaves growing on it, and Jesus said begone evil spirit and bare no fruit, and immediately the Cross of Crucifixion withered away. ... ... ... ... What was Jesus teaching? that he is not the head of the Tribe of Dan, the relationship that cannot experience the ascension ... ... ... ... Jesus was also teaching that the crucifixion he experienced was purely the result of man's sin against the gospel he was giving them to help them ascend. ... ... ... ... Their evil, and not the result of a bible commandment.

 

[Deadtosin]

I'm going with "Dinosaurs and other creations being so large and people living nearly a thousand years are scientifically connected. "

I think Kent Hovind gives a great biblical/scientific example of this. (dragon fly's/ plants etc)

He goes off of this passage, and the fact it never actually rains til after the flood to suggest that this means water above our atmosphere.
think pressure chamber.

Gen
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

[SUP]8 [/SUP]And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.


anyone interested here is the whole thing

Dr. Dino - The Age Of The Earth - YouTube

 

[ProphetExcalibur]

Hey deadtosin, what brings you slumming into these waters? Good to see you my friend!!!

I'm going with "Dinosaurs and other creations being so large and people living nearly a thousand years are scientifically connected. "

I think Kent Hovind gives a great biblical/scientific example of this. (dragon fly's/ plants etc)

He goes off of this passage, and the fact it never actually rains til after the flood to suggest that this means water above our atmosphere.
think pressure chamber.

Gen
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

[SUP]8 [/SUP]And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.


anyone interested here is the whole thing

Dr. Dino - The Age Of The Earth - YouTube