I said YOUR one trick pony. I thought you could read?
You know....that constant drip drip drip of reformed people are loosers, liars and lame brains. That one trick pony
Obedience REQUIRED
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I said YOUR one trick pony. I thought you could read?
You know....that constant drip drip drip of reformed people are loosers, liars and lame brains. That one trick pony
I just don't understand why they continue to not believe the entire Word of God.
They consistently reject portions of scripture that does not agree with their indoctrination.
The catholics have the same problem.
portions of scripture that DO not agree etc. people are generally more believeable when they use grammer fitting to the occasion
He does
They do
Plural vs singular
you're welcome
Well if you don't understand, ask. (snaps suspenders and moves on)
So how long have to been on the Grammar Police Force? How hard is the training?
Are you going to like write me a ticket or something?
Someone should report this boo boo to the Grammar Police Force
What was their number again?
I was justified by the blood of Christ already, so need not justify myself.
In Him, is no sin; so those in Him have to be free of sin too.
I thank God for allowing us to be free from sinning.
I agree.
So those not walking in Christ, are not walking by the Spirit, and must still be converted in order for them to find their name is in the book of life on the day of judgement.
God's given way of being "in Christ" requires us to be baptized into Christ.
Paul writes..."Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?" (Rom 6:3)
That is just one of the choices new converts must make of their own free will.
If one is in Chirst, obedience is the proof.
There are no disobedient people "in Christ".
If one is in Christ, they walk as Christ walked.
How we walk, is our choice.
Manifest from whom you have been born.
Well put !who the son sets free will be free indeed, and indeed that is true but also in deed as welland indeed there is no way to undo God's deed, it's our living hope,
With that living hope we overcome the attempts of the devil who wants us to see shame after we have been saved. He wants to be in shame of sin he wants us to feel guilty and basically all the opposite of gifts of spirit, he will stop at nothing and he loves division, there is a million ways to sin and Satan will do his best every day just to make you sin once and especially saved children. And if can't win there on any particular day he will have you arguing fighting cursing hating, and if he can't win there, he will have you jealous feeling betrayed, feeling low about yourself feeling no good, and if he can't win there he will build your confidence up to fight.
Satan doesn't go away once when a person is walking with the spirit and if a person is not careful one of his demons will have a person indoctrinated or anti this that and the other..
If people are still srving sin, they cannot serve God.
I won't get between you two.
God will not understand why a man breaks his repenentance from sin and serves other masters.
Except to realize he was posing as a believer from the very beginning.
How can they die again after Christ has made them alive? Only those who never lived (unbelievers) can die the second death.
You don't seem to have much faith in God's power of salvation if you think a mere mortal can undo it.
If I were put on trial for being a Christian, there would be proof of the charge.
I agree...if the works in question are works of love (not of the Law).
Yes.
I would call it the fruit of conversion, as salvation won't b assured until th day of judgement.
Yes, the evidence of conversion.
Not the works of the Law.
But our obedience is also necessary in turning from sin and getting baptized inthe name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.
And still, we must endure faithfully until the end.
Again, what you lable salvation, I call conversion...as many fall away between supposed conversion and the day of judgement.
I agree with scripture, in its context.
If no man ever lived without sin, then Jesus is a lie.
He was one of them, for sure.
Since His resurection, all the true belivers are.
Yep.
Yep.
As you wrote above, the behavior is the fruit of their conversion.
Bad fruit...no conversion or salvation.
I agree.
You really need to rephrase that.
Anyone that fears the Lord will do everything in their power not to offend Him !
Don't you think ?
John is addressing those who walk in darkness, and darkness is the way of the wicked.
Those walkig in the light cannot commit sin, as the light is God !
Both, actually.
The fruit determines the Progenitor.
I agree.
Both of them...love God, and love your neighbor.
I am arguing for obedience (1 John 1:7 2;3-4), to the One who saved us.
What is the difference between sinless behavior, and obedience to God ?
Are you going to be like the tax collector, and repent of sin, and live an obedient live from now on ?
I hope so.
I just wanted to know if it had been weeks, or months, or how many years.
Next month, I will start my 19th year without sin.
The tax collector said, "have mercy on me a sinner" and did not claim sinless perfection. Self-righteousness is not obedience. It truly amazes me how everything that I explain to you just continues to go right over your head.
I think your very much mistaken about me, and your lack of compassion here and betrayal towards God's word is evident, There are numerous scriptures, from God centred around understanding are frailty and the spiritual warfare we go through, and how we can stumble when led astray. And when it comes to having a relationship with satan, that's not something I ask for, so why make fun of that and make out I'm having relationship with satan ? Gods children all suffer spirit warfare that's not welcome. Obviously you think your perfect on that front I bet
However your response is to see that as something I welcome, this shows your mean nature, and one that's doesn't care that much.
You twist my words to make out I ment something else to when i never.
Mathew 26:41 mark 14:38 both tell us how the spirit is willing but human nature can be overcome by spiritual wicked forces, again that's not something we welcome.
And it again that can be something a new believer can struggle with, as Jesus is addressing this to believers.
Keep putting on a show but God won't be mocked, eventually he will no longer here you if your not saved, coz I doubt you are saved
Freed18,
you are repeating yourself again, and in addition, flip-flopping your position. You are trying to weave my words regarding justification into your own conditional belief system. When (if) your foundational point of view completely changes, then post.
So not everyone works for the Lord? Furthermore, those who are given greater responsibility can produce fruitless works yet still be saved but those who have less responsibility are held to a greater punishment? That does not make a whole lot of sense to me.
How can they be separated if they are in Christ and Christ is in them? Do they have authority over Christ so as to tell Him where He must reside? They are out of fellowship to be sure but they cannot undo the adoption that the Father has entered them into.
Considering, in the seven letters to the churches in Revelation not once those who were not walking after the Spirit are threatened with the lake of fire, you would think something as important as loss of one's salvation from death would be high on Christ's mind and most important to make clear.
Honestly, I think you are like a lot of people who fail to recognise the difference between salvation from death which, is permanent and assured, from salvation from our ignorance of evil which, is not assured and can rob us (believers) of a purposeful and peaceful life.
Been nice chatting, have a good one.
1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.