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shittim

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Dec 16, 2016
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I do not know if this is considered a dream I have posted this over the years, so if you have read it before, this is why.
It was near a camping site called Kelly Dahl in the Roosevelt National Forrest. I was asleep in the spirit, when I as given to know something concerning the Way and how it was guaranteed to be availed to all peoples who accept it.
Here are the words: "Now the Children of Israel, while they were in the Wilderness, were disobedient, and by their disobedience, salvation was gained by the nations.
It was comforting for me, and I believe for all.
What you shared resonated with my spirit.
Thank you and blessings to you in Jesus name(y):):unsure::coffee:
 

MrE

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Jan 26, 2023
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#23
Thank you. I'll certainly feel welcome that an adopted teacher claims is a fear which we all come into and leave this world having to face, the fear of rejection. And currently, I'm wrestling with that at the moment due to a not-so unforeseen event. If it weren't that this happened to occur on Mem B'Omer (yesterday), the 40th day after Passover, and which the aforementioned teacher regards as 'the day of (Jesus') ascension,' I would look at it as the world having gotten the best of me and, instead, I'm trying to see it as, I guess, an 'appointed' time. Hopefully looking forward to Shavuot, and a jubilee of sorts.

Of course, it's very difficult to walk on things that I cannot see and you and @shittim, and those standing next to me...in silent lucidity... have been instrumental in getting me through this moment.
I can certainly see why @Unknown 's post was of interest to you in particular "Mem" -considering your username, the Omer count you are hyper-focused upon, and whatever challenges it is you are facing. The mention of water should pique your interest as well given the Hebrew mayim.

'The water above' is spirit, in contrast to the water below that we are familiar with in a physical sense. We are born of water in both senses.
 

Magenta

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Jul 3, 2015
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#24

2 Corinthians 5 verses 6-7; Romans 14 verse 8b ~ We are always confident, although we know that while we are at home in the body, we are away from the Lord. For we walk by faith, not by sight. So whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.
 

Mem

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Sep 23, 2014
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#25
I can certainly see why @Unknown 's post was of interest to you in particular "Mem" -considering your username, the Omer count you are hyper-focused upon, and whatever challenges it is you are facing. The mention of water should pique your interest as well given the Hebrew mayim.

'The water above' is spirit, in contrast to the water below that we are familiar with in a physical sense. We are born of water in both senses.
I've delved into a fortress of solitude of sorts, listening to a series of encouraging youtubeos. And I realized I was getting that sense of superman, having lost his powers and retreated into the fortress and found messages from his father, jirel, the connection went down and I found myself back at my homepage, which 'happened' to update to a background image of a mountainous iceberg cave. :D
 

seoulsearch

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May 23, 2009
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#26
Dang it.

I just tried to write a post but the system self-corrects and won't come out the way I needed it to, so please bear with me.

I've had a few dreams from God, but now I feel like He drops thoughts into my head that I know have to be Him -- because there's no way I would be smart enough to come up with them myself!

Many years ago I was at a church that was becoming a family affair -- as in, only members from one family were being approved for leadership positions. Outsiders were unwelcome or expected to be molded into the hive, and if they couldn't be shaped to specification, they were pushed out or let go.

Doctrinally, everything seemed sound. But for some reason, I was uneasy. I asked God why.

One day, I sat down with a sheet of lined school paper and felt God was saying to me, "Spiritual Cloning Produces Spiritual Inbreeding." And here's the illustration He gave me:

(I tried leaving spaces before each set of numbers but the system isn't letting me do that -- it pushes all the numbers to the left and makes them even. Please look at this as if the *** aren't there -- the main point is showing how far to the right the numbers get pushed every time they are repeated.)

123
*123
**123
***123
****123

Notice that technically, the "same" thing is being reproduced every time -- 1, 2, 3.

But what God pointed out to me is that every time it gets duplicated -- every time the church molded someone else to take over and be exactly like them -- the row of numbers drifts further and further from the margin, which is the original will of God.

In other words, if only the same set of people control everything and keep trying to replicate themselves, it can result in them moving further and further from things God wants them to stay close to, because they pick and choose what gets emphasized and what gets ignored, and pass that along.

I saw another blatant example of this in a friend's church, where one set of leaders never wanted to try to reign in the church budget. Spending was out of control, but each new set of leadership was taught not to talk about or face money problems head on, so it always got shoved into the closet. Several years later, the church was in a mountain of debt and in a heap of trouble.

For me, this was a good lesson as to why God sometimes sends us outsiders or those who rock the boat -- sometimes, they're trying to show us things we've tried to hide in the closet but must be faced -- and dealt with.

I was thinking of the times He's done this to me in my own life as well. It sure didn't feel like a blessing at the time, but now I'm thankful for it because it taught me the true meaning of someone what to look for in someone I really trust.
 

MrE

Salty Crew
Jan 26, 2023
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#27
Dang it.

I just tried to write a post but the system self-corrects and won't come out the way I needed it to, so please bear with me.

I've had a few dreams from God, but now I feel like He drops thoughts into my head that I know have to be Him -- because there's no way I would be smart enough to come up with them myself!

Many years ago I was at a church that was becoming a family affair -- as in, only members from one family were being approved for leadership positions. Outsiders were unwelcome or expected to be molded into the hive, and if they couldn't be shaped to specification, they were pushed out or let go.

Doctrinally, everything seemed sound. But for some reason, I was uneasy. I asked God why.

One day, I sat down with a sheet of lined school paper and felt God was saying to me, "Spiritual Cloning Produces Spiritual Inbreeding." And here's the illustration He gave me:

(I tried leaving spaces before each set of numbers but the system isn't letting me do that -- it pushes all the numbers to the left and makes them even. Please look at this as if the *** aren't there -- the main point is showing how far to the right the numbers get pushed every time they are repeated.)

123
*123
**123
***123
****123

Notice that technically, the "same" thing is being reproduced every time -- 1, 2, 3.

But what God pointed out to me is that every time it gets duplicated -- every time the church molded someone else to take over and be exactly like them -- the row of numbers drifts further and further from the margin, which is the original will of God.

In other words, if only the same set of people control everything and keep trying to replicate themselves, it can result in them moving further and further from things God wants them to stay close to, because they pick and choose what gets emphasized and what gets ignored, and pass that along.

I saw another blatant example of this in a friend's church, where one set of leaders never wanted to try to reign in the church budget. Spending was out of control, but each new set of leadership was taught not to talk about or face money problems head on, so it always got shoved into the closet. Several years later, the church was in a mountain of debt and in a heap of trouble.

For me, this was a good lesson as to why God sometimes sends us outsiders or those who rock the boat -- sometimes, they're trying to show us things we've tried to hide in the closet but must be faced -- and dealt with.

I was thinking of the times He's done this to me in my own life as well. It sure didn't feel like a blessing at the time, but now I'm thankful for it because it taught me the true meaning of someone what to look for in someone I really trust.

I hear you. This is a trouble with denominations in general. Red flags waving when you have to attend a certain Bible College or graduate from the right seminary to be considered. When a church treats itself like a family business, the troubles are compounded. Ask ol' Eli the priest of Israel, or his great great great grandfather Aaron about nepotism and how it often works out.

For all the boat rockers and chandelier swingers-- rise up and unite!