Pre-Trib Rapture=Mark of the beast (for some), Naiveness=Sleep and unpreparedness

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Romans 11:17 But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. 18 But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root.
 
Romans 11:17 But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree. 18 But you must not brag about being grafted in to replace the branches that were broken off. You are just a branch, not the root.

No one is denying that the Jews are blessed in God eyes.

Just have to look back in their history and see God putting the preacher on them to bring them to repentance. God hasn’t finished with them by far.

Hebr12:11Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

But it doesn’t retraced from the fact that God has rent the kingdom from them and given it to another .

it doesn’t retraced from the fact that them that were called to the marriage were not worthy .

it doesn’t retraced from the fact the God has made one blood all nations of men.

it doesn’t retraced from the fact the we Christians are God people.

it doesn’t retraced from the fact if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin,

it doesn’t retraced from the fact if they believed Moses, ye would have believed me( Jesus)

it doesn’t retraced from the fact whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

it doesn’t retraced from the fact Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:

it doesn’t retraced from the fact And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise

it doesn’t retraced from the fact that we are all baptized into one body.

it doesn’t retraced from the fact For he is NOT a Jew, which is one outwardly; But he IS a Jew, which is one inwardly.

it doesn’t retraced from the fact he that is of God hears God's words.
 
Thanks for telling me something I already knew. And have known since I was first saved 30 years ago.

Now would you like to talk about what we were talking about? or stick with this one subject we both agree on?

If you agree that we all drink from the same spiritual drink, and are all one nation in Christ and baptised into the same spirit and there is only one body the church. Then why do you separate Jewish Christians from non-Jewish Christians?

To say you agree is a contradiction in terms
 
If you agree that we all drink from the same spiritual drink, and are all one nation in Christ and baptised into the same spirit and there is only one body the church. Then why do you separate Jewish Christians from non-Jewish Christians?

To say you agree is a contradiction in terms

How is it a contradiction of terms when we are talking about Human History. or human future? your stuck on eternity, and not looking at history and future EVENTS.

Prophesy concerns EVENTS of mankind here on earth. Yes prophesy spoke of the redeemer. But it also spoke of human events which have absolutely NOTHING to do with salvation. if you refuse to look at this. there is no use in trying to explain to you what I believe.
 
No one is denying that the Jews are blessed in God eyes.

Just have to look back in their history and see God putting the preacher on them to bring them to repentance. God hasn’t finished with them by far.

Hebr12:11Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

But it doesn’t retraced from the fact that God has rent the kingdom from them and given it to another .

And according to prophesy, He will give it back, When the gentile Christians "Fall away" a point you REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE
 
Nope. God promised to preserve a remnant. He also promised to restore them. God uses this "time of Jacobs troube" to cause them to seek him and bring them back to him. Just like he uses tribulation to bring many of us to Christ, or bring those of us who have fallen back to him.

Your ignoring the OT prophesies my friend.



Um a christian is a christian, he is neither jew or gentile, according to the promise. 12 tribes refers to the blooodline of the 12 children of Isreal. Stop trying to twist it to mean something else.



No it is not. it is speaking of a specific time period, which at this time is yet future in nature.


God’s not trying to save the blood line.
Because flesh and blood cant inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 15:50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

And Jesus said that which is flesh is flesh and that which is spirit is spirit.

John3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Gods not trying to save the blood line, because there is only one blood of all nations of men the blood of jesus.

Acts17:26And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth.


When James said to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting, he was greeting all who believed and had faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

James didn’t teach segregation or separation, he was teaching to have respect of persons was a sin.

James2:1My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
9But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

It’s not James teaching segregation or separation it’s you eternally-gratefull