Replacement theology? Yes or No.

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“Let's not forget that as Gentiles, we are "fellowheirs". You have the literal heirs of Israel and the fellowheirs in the Gentile nations. The seed of Abraham is both literal (Israelites) and spiritual (Gentiles)”

naw my position is an Israelite who accepts Jesus is an hier of Abraham and a gentile who accepts Jesus is an hoer of Abraham . It’s simple it doesn’t take explaination by anything but scripture it’s repetetive

“Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For are not all Israel, which are of Israel: That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭9:6, 8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The promise is in Christ only being israelite won’t save anyone having faith in Christ will save anyone regardless of thier flesh it’s meaningless because there’s a new covenant made with new born people who are born in christ as the seed and hiers of Abraham ……
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:28-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬


they alone are the seed of Abraham who is Christ Jesus the seed of promise

But really to me it’s already explained in the Bible so re explaining it some other way is futile and a waste of time



Christian’s regardless of thier identity are Abraham’s hiers and also the faithful of the ot like Abraham Isaac and Jacob who’s kingdom we’ll inherit

The only thing you keep forgetting is that Jesus is going to pour out His Holy Spirit in Jerusalem (Zechariah 13:1) upon His return and those who receive it will be heirs, but all of you act like that's never going to happen because you have a beef with the current Israel. That's the thing you have to shake and the reason you reject God's word on the matter.
 
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Do you want to play some more patty-cake with @HeIsHere ? Ask her the following question:

"Is Christ Jesus coming again bodily to the EARTH where every eye will see Him, in order to reign and rule from His throne in Jerusalem? Yes or no?"

I can tell you right now that you will NOT get a straight answer. What you WILL get is shucking and jiving, circumlocution, vague nonsensical bafflegab or some other exit strategy.

BTW, the response (or failure to respond) on this question alone is sufficient to establish whether someone is WHEAT or TARES.

I don't know if I would go that far. Some people just don't know how to piece the ENTIRE scriptures together, but I wouldn't use that as a measure of whether they are a wheat or a tare.
 
The church (ekkelesia) was present in the OT as already shown over and over.

No one reads scripture and finds dispensationalism, no one, but it can be a constructed with an end goal in mind, by highlighting certain verses and downplaying the others, you know the usual approach of false systems.
Scripture sum up:
John 3 :16

That's it. From ot to nt, same.
 
The only thing that's different is the timing of when God/Jesus chooses to reveal Himself to everyone. Remember, Jesus said it's not by flesh and blood that we come to the realization of who Jesus is. It's given to us by God.
Jesus never say in scripture, do not follow me this time, wait for next 1000 years and follow me.

Examine entire scripture, the calling from God to man to repent to return is always right now, present time.
 
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Jesus never say in scripture, do not follow me this time, wait for next 1000 years and follow me.

Examine entire scripture, the calling from God to man to repent to return is always right now, present time.
While you can still call today, today.
 
Jesus never say in scripture, do not follow me this time, wait for next 1000 years and follow me.

Examine entire scripture, the calling from God to man to repent to return is always right now, present time.

That's because you're not familiar with the Old Testament. Like cv5 mentioned, what's the trigger event that sparks the return of Jesus? Do you know?
 
That's because you're not familiar with the Old Testament. Like cv5 mentioned, what's the trigger event that sparks the return of Jesus? Do you know?
As I said many times, Jesus do not need our help for His process, as Judah did. What Judah Ischariot did was not to trigger Jesus die for our sins. Jesus do not need Judah to trigger that.


Jesus just request us to obey his commandments.
 
I don't know if I would go that far. Some people just don't know how to piece the ENTIRE scriptures together, but I wouldn't use that as a measure of whether they are a wheat or a tare.
Here is what Paul had to say about persons who were simply denying the RAPTURE. Many would think that this is not a big deal, but the many are dead wrong, and Paul is dead right. For it is these kinds of heresies that "overthrow the faith of some".

2Ti 2:17
And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2Ti 2:18
Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

Denying the reason and purpose of the Second Coming is orders of magnitude more egregious wouldn't you agree?
Yet this is what they do, and do it persistently, and never care to learn the truth or correct their error.
 
As I said many times, Jesus do not need our help for His process, as Judah did. What Judah Ischariot did was not to trigger Jesus die for our sins. Jesus do not need Judah to trigger that.


Jesus just request us to obey his commandments.

You mean Judas Iscariot? It doesn't matter what reason Judas did it, what matters is that Jesus said it would happen. Just like the Bible shows us that when Jesus returns, He'll be returning with the wrath of God and He starts by cutting down all of the nations that come up against Jerusalem in order to protect the people and the land (Zechariah 12). Then he'll refine the 1/3 remnant and keep them in the land (Zechariah 13:8-9).
 
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Here is what Paul had to say about persons who were simply denying the RAPTURE. Many would think that this is not a big deal, but the many are dead wrong, and Paul is dead right. For it is these kinds of heresies that "overthrow the faith of some".

2Ti 2:17
And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2Ti 2:18
Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

Denying the reason and purpose of the Second Coming is orders of magnitude more egregious wouldn't you agree?
Yet this is what they do, and do it persistently, and never care to learn the truth or correct their error.

I don't think the majority here are Preterists, but there are definitely one or two. The biggest argument is about a beef with Israel remaining a nation after Jesus returns.
 
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You mean Judas Iscariot? It doesn't matter what reason Judas did it, what matters is that Jesus said it would happen. Just like the Bible shows us that when Jesus returns, He'll be returning with the wrath of God and He starts by cutting down all of the nations that come up against Jerusalem in order to protect the people and the land (Zechariah 12). Then he'll refine the 1/3 remnant and keep them in the land (Zechariah 13:8-9).
What does this have to do with today supporting secular Israel state?
 
That's because you're not familiar with the Old Testament. Like cv5 mentioned, what's the trigger event that sparks the return of Jesus? Do you know?
THAT is indeed the crucial question.
For to it all of the prophets and Moses and psalms do testify.
And that is the question they WILL NOT answer, DESPITE the indubitable evidence already provided in copious quantities.
 
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THAT is indeed the crucial question.
For to it all of the prophets and Moses and psalms do testify.
And that is the question they WILL NOT answer, DESPITE the indubitable evidence already provided in copious quantities.
What is the trigger according to you? Cv5?
 
He be shockin Ya'll
There are many who will be in shock I can tell you that.
For they SHALT NOT WATCH. Consequently "that day" will come upon them as a thief.
Whereas we futurist dispensationalists are every vigilant, ever watchful.

BTW, these supercessionists and preterists conspicuously avoid these passages like the plague.
Nor do they rightly understand them.

Rev 3:3
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

1Th 5:2
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

1Th 5:4
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
 
There are many who will be in shock I can tell you that.
For they SHALT NOT WATCH. Consequently "that day" will come upon them as a thief.
Whereas we futurist dispensationalists are every vigilant, ever watchful.

BTW, these supercessionists and preterists conspicuously avoid these passages like the plague.
Nor do they rightly understand them.

Rev 3:3
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

1Th 5:2
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

1Th 5:4
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Good scripture quoting, they are teaching us to return to Jesus, right now!
 
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You don't have to support the current secular state, but you can't ignore God/Jesus' plan for them in the future either just because of how you feel about them today.
God's calling for every human is the same, repent and return today, because our life time is in the hand of God.

God's plan is in God's control, not our control.

2000 years ago did Jesus told his followers to betray him quicker so he can go on the cross quicker?
 
God's calling for every human is the same, repent and return today, because our life time is in the hand of God.

God's plan is in God's control, not our control.

2000 years ago did Jesus told his followers to betray him quicker so he can go on the cross quicker?

God's calling for every human is NOT at the same time. That's what Romans 11:25 tells you.

You're right, God's plan is in GOD's control and NOT ours.

What did Jesus tell Peter when Peter tried to prevent Jesus' death?

Matthew 16:21-23

21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
 
OK, so you threw the Book of Hebrews out then?
It teaches the old covenant has been done away with by Jesus Who established the New Covenant

Seems you confusing Jewish culture and customs with the fact that Jesus established the New Covenant which is the Gospel of the Kingdom that started being taught with the ministry of John the Baptist going forward

Luke 16:16 - The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it

Jesus tells us the law and the prophets stopped at the start of John the Baptist's ministry which made the way for the arrival of Jesus' earthly ministry. Surely Jesus know what He's talking about right? You don't think Jesus was misinformed do you?

You said the few apostles were not living under Mosaic law....I responded by showing yes they were.