Shall we sin that grace may abound?

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wattie said:
Yes, and i wouldn't say that either. OSAS doesn't mean that. The Holy Spirit will discipline a wayward believer.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that, just take a look at the five disappointing, problematic churches in the seven letters (Rev. 2-3). Collectively, those churches's fates are sealed, the Lord only called out the individuals with a conscience - "he who has an ear, let him hear!" Why didn't the Holy Spirit discipline the "angels" of these churches? Why is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit the unforgivable sin, and why did Paul seriously warn about grieving the Holy Spirit, if the Holy Spirit can somehow automatically disciple a wayward believer?
 
wattie said:
Well, that makes salvation a hire purchase agreement with no assurance of salvation.
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Salvation is something we are granted IF we remain faithfully obedient to God.
Our assurance is the gift of the Holy Ghost, after having repented of sin and been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.
Acts 2:38 sums it up..."Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
Paul writes of the Holy Ghost this way..."Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit." (2 Cor 5:5)
The "earnest" is a downpayment.
If we keep to our end of the bargain, we will be found in the book of life on the day of judgement
wattie said:
Where is Jesus's forgiveness of the stain of sin? Ineffectual?
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Jesus' forgiveness is applied at our baptism in His name for the remission of past sins.
 
Lovette said:
I wouldn't be so sure about that, just take a look at the five disappointing, problematic churches in the seven letters (Rev. 2-3). Collectively, those churches's fates are sealed, the Lord only called out the individuals with a conscience - "he who has an ear, let him hear!" Why didn't the Holy Spirit discipline the "angels" of these churches? Why is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit the unforgivable sin, and why did Paul seriously warn about grieving the Holy Spirit, if the Holy Spirit can somehow automatically disciple a wayward believer?
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The conviction on the soul for a believer from the Holy Spirit is what I mean. There could also be discipline from being a church member with the process of discipline in Mathew 18.

The point is, OSAS doesn't mean 'now do whatever you like'
 
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