It is possible, but they will be convicted by the Holy Spirit, so usually they would come out of it.
Shall we sin that grace may abound?
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Believers in the church at Corinth were walking after the flesh .
David did for a time.
The Loadicean church also were walking after the flesh.
The Galatians were admonished not to walk after the flesh, so most likely were at different times.
Etc..
Wow you you actually teach that Christians can live in sin and still be saved and go to Heaven. Amazing.
That's a false gospel.
Kool so let's all go out and get drunk and do some sin!
We'll sin and follow the devil so that grace abounds!
No.. a believer living in sin will get disciplined, from the Holy Spirit. Enough said.
You're the one advocating for living in sin in Post #42 above, not me.
But it's all good as they'll still go to Heaven anyway after living a life of sin right?
How is it all good to be convicted of your sin by the Holy Spirit? That is a very hard experience, and would be an ongoing wretched existence for a believer who kept getting caught in sin.
They could get relationships ended by those they hurt, get kicked out from their church if they are a member of one. If they are a pastor, they could lose their pastorship. God may even end their life, to stop thier sin affecting others.
They would lose rewards in heaven.
1 Corinthians 3:11-15 KJV
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. [12] Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; [13] Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. [14] If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. [15] If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
The real Holy Spirit leads people to not only be convicted of their sin but to actually repent of their sin and turn away from it.
As in stop living in sin and making excuses for sinful behavior falsely claiming one still goes to Heaven if they continue in sin.
Yes and in the end they go to hell
Not only that, they would be rejected by the Lord and not allowed to remain in God's Kingdom according to Jesus!
John 8:34,35
Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
Matthew 13:41,42
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
If we take what you are saying as being the truth then we can all live in sin and still go to Heaven.
People that teach this typically have some hidden sin in their lives they know is wrong but they want to think they are saved so they subscribe to the fake grace being taught by the fake christians
Why would it be called 'backsliding', (not a biblical term by the way) if the person was never truly saved? If you are sliding away from something, it means you were at that something at one time. You have some strong opinions, but be aware they are opinions and not scripturally sound.
You word does not replace God's word irregardless of the strength or your personal convictions. Was David, for example, eternally lost because of his sin with Bathsheeba and consequential placing of her husband at the front of the battle to be killed, not a leaving
of God's principals? Did David lie to God and was he lying when God chose him to replace Saul?
Wow no he does not. Amazing how you falsely accuse others and make a regular habit of it.
Are you some kind of dull witted or just bereft of comprehension in your desire to rule every conversation you enter in?
Judging from the first sentence you wrote above, it sounds like you might desire to sin but you are afraid to.
He still is not saying Christians are required to turn away from sin in order to be saved.
Because of this, by default his position is we can live in sin and still be saved.
This is what the majority of people claiming to be Christians believe in these last days where deception abounds
No, I got the Holy Spirit and God's Word.
As opposed to yourself who is not afraid to live in sin?
Is sin your thang?
Wow! I am not sure I have seen this expressed so clearly before. Someone who is "unbelieving" still has salvation. And then God may actually kill them and they go to heaven.
Now I definitely do not believe that way. But at least here is clearly expressed what OSAS really practically means.
It seems to me that verses like John 3:16,18 and 36 clearly teach that one needs to believe (have faith) to be saved. The one who does not believe is condemned.
That is called works salvation.
It goes like this: I am saved by believing that Christ died for me and bore the punishment of my sins so that I can be forgiven because I cannot earn my own salvation. BUT, then I must obey and work to KEEP the salvation God GAVE me when I first believed or I will be turned away.
That, is not salvation. That is working for the salvation you received through faith in Christ.
Have you read Galatians or do you avoid the New Testament?
So you support Christians who are disobedient then? Ever see this slice of Truth?
Romans 6:16 - Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Do you think Romans 6:16 is a lie and those who walk in disobedience to the Lord submitting themselves to being under the control of sin are still saved?
Can Christians sow to the flesh and not reap corruption?
Is that your case for greasy grace?
Are you saying then, that you have never sinned since salvation? You did say, after all, that a person must 'obey' or they will not be saved...which I reminded you is actually what is called works salvation.
Did God give us a 'how to be saved kit' or did Christ cover all of it? Are you keeping yourself or does Christ keep us?
Note I am not delegating any allowance for continuing in habitual sin but you seem to say that only what we do once we believe, assures our salvation yet the Bible states no such thing.
I know what he is saying. I am pointing out that you do not understand what he is saying and actually distorting what he is saying.
Corrrecting people who gaslight, exaggerate and downright lie about what others say is my 'thang' . In your case, I could be very
busy but I see it more as making others aware of your false posts then correcting you.
I don't think you are aware of the people who come here and act superior and use expressions like 'greasy grace' and other slang terms.
People try to correct them and point out the way they talk to others says more about them then anything else.
Eventually, these people go too far a number of times. They are told to stop. If they keep going, they are shown the door.
No one has said anything close to what you are trying to gaslight us into thinking they said. What you are doing, is trying to get people to argue with you by twisting what they actually say. This behavior has been seen around this forum multiple times over the years and
it illustrates an individual who seems to believe they are above others and have a gift from God of judging everyone but themself.
It never ends well. I guess doing those things, is YOUR 'thang'.
I understand exactly what he is saying which is evident by what he's not saying.
He's speaking as someone that does not accept all the Lord teaches in His Word.
Those claiming God's Word is false, are on their own.
Romans 6:16 - Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Can Christians sow to the flesh and not reap corruption?
Why would you continue to advocate for being disobedient to the Lord and hide behind the fake "works salvation" claim?
Do you think disobedience is a good thing?
It ends badly for lucifer and will end badly for all the fake Christians who advocate for disobedience as well.
It's like these people don't even have a Bible, much less know what's in it. Amazing!