Should Christians Use Dating Apps?

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Oooh I'm willing to speak for everyone on that question. Because you hold toxic and unbiblical views about relationships and marriage. If you are so content being single, why are you still here arguing with people about singleness? Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much.
Answer my question first. Singleness doesn't bother me, never did, I came here simply to implore your minds on why it bothers you guys so much.
 
I'm not going to let you squirm out of it that easily. You accused me of being discontent with singleness and promoting dating apps and "broken dating culture". So. Quote the post(s) where I did any of that.

If you can't then you are bearing false witness against your neighbor, which is a very serious offense.
I'm under no such obligation, go search your own memory and record. You're the one who "dated a few guys" and even dismissed the #MeToo sentiment as an insult to them, so why were you involved with them in the first place? I kindly reminded you of the post MeToo dating landscape, ignoring it is your choice, but don't insinuate me and accuse me of bearing false witness.
 
Hi lovette, I appreciate the offer but I don't give out my email unless I've had a long and edifying history with the person. Although I do genuinely care about you, our interactions have been rather contentious. You have also called me a cyberstalker and outright dismissed basically everything I have said to you. So I don't think a private interaction is a good idea, but if you ever decide to post the story here publicly I will give it a read. 😎
Btw this is about training the brain on critical and original thinking, writing stories, with coherent characters, plots and ethos is most effective, it's like training muscle training, and it matters more than ever in this age of AI slop, and I'm capable and patient to write - without any language barrier.
 
I'm under no such obligation, go search your own memory and record. You're the one who "dated a few guys" and even dismissed the #MeToo sentiment as an insult to them, so why were you involved with them in the first place? I kindly reminded you of the post MeToo dating landscape, ignoring it is your choice, but don't insinuate me and accuse me of bearing false witness.

You are absolutely under obligation. You accused me of several bizarre things and now you are refusing to present evidence for your position. You can't just make up lies about a person and expect them to decide you're right 🙄. Everything I've said here is on record, and you obviously know how to use the "reply" button, so just QUOTE ONE SINGLE DANG POST WHEREIN I EXPRESSED DISCONTENT WITH SINGLENESS OR DEFENDED DATING APPS OR "BROKEN DATING CULTURE". 😑😑😑😑😑
 
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Btw this is about training the brain on critical and original thinking, writing stories, with coherent characters, plots and ethos is most effective, it's like training muscle training, and it matters more than ever in this age of AI slop, and I'm capable and patient to write - without any language barrier.

I didnt dismiss your writing. I would love for you to practice critical thinking, original thinking, language and coherence.

But if you're going to keep accusing me of bizarre things with zero evidence then I prefer you do it publicly. That's all. 😊
 
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I didnt dismiss your writing. I would love for you to practice critical thinking, original thinking, language and coherence.

But if you're going to keep accusing me of bizarre things with zero evidence then I prefer you do it publicly. That's all. 😊
wise believer.

If you don't know the person, do not do things in private with them. Go to a public forum, public library, public church....
All in public.
 
You are absolutely under obligation. You accused me of several bizarre things and now you are refusing to present evidence for your position. You can't just make up lies about a person and expect them to decide you're right 🙄. Everything I've said here is on record, and you obviously know how to use the "reply" button, so just QUOTE ONE SINGLE DANG POST WHEREIN I EXPRESSED DISCONTENT WITH SINGLENESS OR DEFENDED DATING APPS OR "BROKEN DATING CULTURE". 😑😑😑😑😑


You know, his reply seemed to have come from out of nowhere. Just when things seemed to resolve, he starts a fight with you. I think he likes you.

Remember when you were a kid and if a boy liked you he'd pull your ponytail and run away, so you'd have to chase him? He's being like that.

It strange for a man to pull a tactic like that from kindergarten or 1st grade. :oops:


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You know, his reply seemed to have come from out of nowhere. Just when things seemed to resolve, he starts a fight with you. I think he likes you.

Remember when you were a kid and if a boy liked you he'd pull your ponytail and run away, so you'd have to chase him? He's being like that.

It strange for a man to pull a tactic like that from kindergarten or 1st grade. :oops:


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Is that a promise or threatening?
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You know, his reply seemed to have come from out of nowhere. Just when things seemed to resolve, he starts a fight with you. I think he likes you.

Remember when you were a kid and if a boy liked you he'd pull your ponytail and run away, so you'd have to chase him? He's being like that.

It strange for a man to pull a tactic like that from kindergarten or 1st grade. :oops:

Impossible. Lovette has made it very clear that girls are annoying and troublesome and he is very 100% happy to not have any in his life. 😉

Actually all that sounds a lot like something a first grader would say 🤔. Emotionally, I'd put him at about an third grade level.

And to be fair, he has done the same thing with @RodColeman in another thread. My best guess is that he's lonely and doesn't know how to interact outside of arguments, so if there is no fight going he just re-starts an old one. And I am one of very few females (or members in general) who is still willing to talk to him 😬.

You may be on to something though! 😆
 
Impossible. Lovette has made it very clear that girls are annoying and troublesome and he is very 100% happy to not have any in his life. 😉

Actually all that sounds a lot like something a first grader would say 🤔. Emotionally, I'd put him at about an third grade level.

And to be fair, he has done the same thing with @RodColeman in another thread. My best guess is that he's lonely and doesn't know how to interact outside of arguments, so if there is no fight going he just re-starts an old one. And I am one of very few females (or members in general) who is still willing to talk to him 😬.

You may be on to something though! 😆

There's another one of these threads here? Maybe on this one I can finally get through to Lovette!

Don't worry, I'm joking. 😂
 
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There's another one of these threads here? Maybe on this one I can finally get through to Lovette!

Don't worry, I'm joking. 😂

Haha yes I believe it happened in the "contentment in singlehood" thread. This is the "should Christians use dating apps" thread. Just pop in and yell "Soulmates may or may not exist!!!" And I'm sure he'll show up 😜
 
Should Christians Use Dating Apps?

Using dating apps is fine. A dating app is just a tool to find people and then potentially date them, which may potentially lead to a relationship, which may potentially lead to marriage. And the Bible doesn't even really tell us how to go about looking for a partner. Also, a lot of people think dating apps are bad because the "right" way to meet someone is "organically" and via personal interaction. Well, yeah. That's why we go on first dates with the attractive people we talk to on dating apps. Hahaha!

And besides, the advantage of online dating tools is that you can filter out a lot of the people that probably wouldn't make great partners.

Another reason Christians can be wary of dating apps is because it feels superficial. For instance, we can feel "dirty" or "judgmental" when we skip over someone on the app because we don't find them attractive enough. It can feel "shallow" and "worldly" and Christians are supposed to be "better" than that. However, physical attraction is a real thing. Even in biblical texts about married couples, the authors comment on how attractive they are. Sure, it's not the main criteria, but it does play a role.

Online dating can can also feel like a desperate last resort. So we struggle to figure out how to even feel about it, haha. It can even feel "unromantic." We all want to meet someone in a "cute" way. We all want to tell people an interesting story of how we met our partner, don't we? But online dating is not the "story." The story is what happens next.

It might also be a generational thing. Young Christians often get advice from older Christians (whether it's wanted or not :ROFL:) And lots of older Christians met their partner "organically" or by coincidence (when they "weren't looking" as the cliché goes) Those older Christians then caution younger Christians about using dating apps, simply because they didn't find a spouse that way, or because it seems too "worldly" or "consumeristic."

Time to go on a bit of a ramble: I think a lot of Christians wonder about this because they're often taught that them getting married is "in God's hands" and "God has a plan." So they're worried that, if they do use a dating app, it could somehow screw up "God's plan" or "God's timing." Or they worry that, if they use a dating app, it could prove that they "lack faith" or don't "trust God enough."

However, God does not promise marriage to any of us. How, exactly, are you supposed to "trust God" to fulfill a promise when He never made you that promise in the first place?

The funny thing about this is that we don't approach other aspects of our life that way. If I'm unemployed and I asked another Christian for advice, what would they tell me? That God will bring me the right job at the right time, and I should do nothing and just wait on His timing until then? Er, probably not.

As Christians, we often have the shaky idea that whatever's currently happening in your life is "God's plan" or "God's best for you right now." I get that we want to honor God's sovereignty, but other factors can also play a role. Also, what if you're currently homeless, or unemployed, sick, or being abused? Are those things "God's plan" or "God's best" just because they're currently happening?

One of the reasons we worry about taking action is because we think that God has a "soulmate" out there for us. However, the Bible doesn't teach us anything about "soulmates." Jesus even says that there is no marriage in Heaven. And, in 1 Corinthians 7:39, in a verse that sort of addresses this, Paul says that a widow who wants to remarry can marry whoever she wants, as long as he's a Christian.

Sometimes we have to act. But sometimes we believe that acting is a sign of weak faith. But isn’t it in acting that our faith is proven? I mean, God’s will is mostly done by God’s people. So we need to do it with God. But we still need to do it. Hahaha.

I think that if you're 25 or older and still single, and you want to find a partner, you should probably put some serious effort into it. It's not going to "just happen."

Another funny thing about the idea of a "soulmate" is we often focus on how this person will be perfect for me, and not so much the other way around. :LOL:

We're also afraid of choosing the "wrong" person. And that can become an excuse where every person I date just isn't "The One." It's also an excuse for ending a marriage, sadly. It can also prevent us from working on our own issues, fears, insecurities, or shortcomings. I think we can definitely use this idea to hide from things. It can be a way to hide from disappointment with God. He hasn’t delivered me a spouse but, hey, it’s all good, He must have a different “plan." It can also keep us from dealing with our own stuff. "Waiting on God" often seems to mean, “I’m not doing anything wrong, it’s just that God hasn’t sent me 'The One' yet.” Yeah, it couldn’t possibly have anything to do with me. Yikes!

Apparently, for the first few thousand years of human history, it was “God’s plan” for young people to be joined in arranged marriages in their late teens. Then God changed his mind to around 18 or so, with close involvement and vetting from each other’s parents. Then He changed it to be more inclusive of other races and social classes. Then, in the modern age, God decided to change it for many people to the late twenties and early thirties, with little involvement from parents, at least initially. What is going on?

Another reason people worry about using dating apps is that they wonder if God "wants" that. Those people are currently single, so they wonder if God has currently ordained a "season of singleness" for them. However, the Bible doesn't actually say anything about a "season of singleness." It talks about marriage on one hand, and lifelong celibacy on the other. In 1 Corinthians 7, Paul doesn't say that you have the "gift of singleness" until you get married. He says that if you have the gift of singleness, then don't get married.

Then we bring the "contentment" issue into it. In Philippians 4 Paul says he's learned to be content in all circumstances. We then transpose that into 1 Corinthians 7 and take it to mean something like “If you're currently single, then God has called you to singleness right now and The Good Christian Thing To Do is to be 'content' in that.” Or people will tell you that God will only bring you your future spouse once you learn how the be "content" with your singleness. And we're wary of using a dating app because that seems to be the opposite of that sort of advice. But that isn’t what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 7. He says if you aren’t content (called, or gifted) in celibacy ──── then maybe you should get married.

I mean, what about all the young Christian couples who dated in high school and then got married at 21? When did God have to teach them "contentment" in singleness before He could bless them with their spouses?

Paul isn't saying here that if you're unmarried that you don’t have to worry about the things of marriage. It would be more accurate, I believe, to say that one of the ways to see if you are called to celibacy is to ask if you are worried about it. Otherwise, Paul would be saying that celibate people are "better" followers of Jesus than married people. If that were true, well, then no one should get married.

Paul’s writing on this issue is pretty nuanced. In 1 Corinthians 7 Paul says he has no “commandment from God” about this. Paul says that he wishes that everyone was single like him ──── not that God wishes it. He says that he, personally, is content with being single ──── but he admits that not everyone is like that. He says that it’s good to stay single, but that it’s better to marry if you have strong desires. Paul “supposes” that it’s better to stay single because of “the present distress,” some crisis that the church in Corinth was dealing with at the time. He says you’re not sinning by marrying. Paul says a widow would be happier if she stayed single, but he admits that this is just a personal opinion. Evidently, many people are not happier being single. In 1 Timothy 4:1-3 Paul also condemns people who forbid marriage. And if Paul wrote the Book of Hebrews, then he also said that marriage is a good thing.

And, yes, I know the Bible doesn't really say anything about dating. But look at some of the biblical stories about marriage. Boaz noticed Ruth, but he didn't just "wait on God" to do everything for him. He took action. Ruth also declined to "wait on God" to do everything for her. She took action. When Abraham had his son, he took action to go out and find a spouse for Isaac.

I think I've started rambling. So, anyway....yes, it's fine to use dating apps. I don't know if God actively "brings people together." But, if He does, He can do it in lots of ways, dating apps included. Don’t set in your mind that your path to finding a spouse has to go a certain way.
 
You are absolutely under obligation. You accused me of several bizarre things and now you are refusing to present evidence for your position. You can't just make up lies about a person and expect them to decide you're right 🙄. Everything I've said here is on record, and you obviously know how to use the "reply" button, so just QUOTE ONE SINGLE DANG POST WHEREIN I EXPRESSED DISCONTENT WITH SINGLENESS OR DEFENDED DATING APPS OR "BROKEN DATING CULTURE". 😑😑😑😑😑
Alright, you said you " dated a small handful of guys", is that true or not? If that is true, why did you do that, even to defend their honor, if you were truly content with singleness? :confused: Your participation in the "dating culture" has practicallly proven your DISCONTENT WITH SINGLENESS and DEFENSE OF BROKEN DATING CULTURE. You've dated "a small handful of guys", and yet you're still here, on the single board, in this particular thread about dating app, arguing with me, why is that? Do I really need to spell it all out for you?

And that was the whole point, if Jesus had truly "given us victory over the flesh,” why are we still enslaved by our fleshly desire to date for worldly validation?

The evidence is three pages previous, go check it out yourself, I made nothing up.
 
I didnt dismiss your writing. I would love for you to practice critical thinking, original thinking, language and coherence.

But if you're going to keep accusing me of bizarre things with zero evidence then I prefer you do it publicly. That's all. 😊
The critical and original thinking on this topic is to recognize dating culture is broken and ungodly, stay away from it for God's sake and your own. And again. The evidence is three pages previous, where you mentioned your participation in dating. You either feel content with singleness and ignore dating, or you feel discontent with singleness and pursue dating, you can't have both, That's all.
 
I think I've started rambling. So, anyway....yes, it's fine to use dating apps. I don't know if God actively "brings people together." But, if He does, He can do it in lots of ways, dating apps included. Don’t set in your mind that your path to finding a spouse has to go a certain way.

Yeah, totally "fine", as these apps are designed to keep you single, lol. :ROFL: Subscribers settle down with somebody, they stop using it, source of data and revenue lost. Can't let that happen, can it?

 
Yeah, totally "fine", as these apps are designed to keep you single, lol. :ROFL: Subscribers settle down with somebody, they stop using it, source of data and revenue lost. Can't let that happen, can it?


Um, new people are born every day, and new people grow up and mature every day to the point that they enter the life stage where they begin to desire a romantic partner and hit the usual 18+age limits that we usually see on dating apps.

Did you think of that? :LOL:
 
Um, new people are born every day, and new people grow up and mature every day to the point that they enter the life stage where they begin to desire a romantic partner and hit the usual 18+age limits that we usually see on dating apps.

Did you think of that? :LOL:
What's common is not always normal, not always according to the natural way God intends us to live, did you think of that?