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Mitspa
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Wow..then they must not believe their own koran? so basically you maintain that muslims are really Christians ?
Similarities in Islam & Christianity
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Do you believe the quran is the inspired word of God?
Also Im pretty sure the quran says its blasphemous to say that God had a son. Chapter 9 verse 30 does deny that their god allah had a son.
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I don't know why he was banned, either.
(but since I haven't contributed financially to CC, I just go along with what the mods decide... just along for the ride...
)but say, Bowman, you seem knowledgeable about islam and the koran... do muslims agree that jesus rose from the dead?
I am somewhat skeptical that the op came to learn about Jesus, but instead wanted to bring people who were still new in their faith to Him to a false prophet with a doctrine that goes against Christ. So Im not too worried about him being banned.
Dont take that as in I dont want to talk with those with questions about Christ. I actually do that outside the forum when I can. Though most people just want to use the opportunity to prove you have no idea what your talking about by preying on the fact that many people though believing that Christ is God, dont readily have the verses to prove it.
Dont take that as in I dont want to talk with those with questions about Christ. I actually do that outside the forum when I can. Though most people just want to use the opportunity to prove you have no idea what your talking about by preying on the fact that many people though believing that Christ is God, dont readily have the verses to prove it.
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Mitspa
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We all know the mods here are not some kind of bigots looking to ban people ...the rules are the rules and folks need to stop the "poor muslim" stuff ... Its just unfair to the whole forum.
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Mitspa
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So now the koran has been translated in error by all the muslims? I don't get the point or why so many seem to trying to make some excuse for this dangerous religion?
Please post the Koran address of this statement.
Why, rather than argue with others, don't you take each of Magenta's comparisons and give a reason why you believe that it is wrong? This is the Bible Discussion Forum. The title of the thread is Similarities in Islam and Christianity. It began with a series of obviously incorrect statements. Debunk the statements, not the moderators actions.
That isn't for you to decide. You do not know the future or how God might reach him or speak to him, if we count the darkest and the most evil of hearts as unreachable unchangable then Jesus died for nothing. if we ignore those who hate us who attack us those whose hearts are that dark and souls are that blood stained then they will never be changed and it will be because we were not willing to extend the arms of Jesus.
You may be fine with giving up on a person like that but until they can die and can no longer be reached or saved even if there is only a .0000001 percent chance they can be saved I will burn in the very fires of hell for a time just so they can be reached just so their hearts can be unfrozen and can know how deeply God loves them and how far he is willing to go for them.
As a Christian as a believer as a child of God why are you are one? what is your hearts reason and motive for being one and how far are you willing to go for the sake of even the most evil and coldest of hearts out of love?
No.
It never claims to be inspired, thus, we should not expect that it is.
It does, however, repeatedly state that its source material, The Holy Bible, was inspired.
A more correct rendering of this ayah, with context…
وقالت اليهود عزير ابن الله وقالت النصرى
المسيح ابن الله ذلك قولهم بأفوههم يضهءون
قول الذين كفروا من قبل قتلهم الله أنى يؤفكون اتخذوا أحبارهم ورهبنهم أربابا من دون الله والمسيح ابن مريم وما أمروا إلا ليعبدوا إلها وحدا لا إله إلا هو سبحنه عما يشركون
المسيح ابن الله ذلك قولهم بأفوههم يضهءون
قول الذين كفروا من قبل قتلهم الله أنى يؤفكون اتخذوا أحبارهم ورهبنهم أربابا من دون الله والمسيح ابن مريم وما أمروا إلا ليعبدوا إلها وحدا لا إله إلا هو سبحنه عما يشركون
Waqalati alyahoodu AAuzayrun ibnu Allahi waqalati alnnasara almaseehu ibnu Allahi thalika qawluhum bi-afwahihim yudahi-oona qawla allatheena kafaroo min qablu qatalahumu Allahu anna yu/fakoona ittakhathoo ahbarahum waruhbanahum arbaban min dooni Allahi waalmaseeha ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahan wahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahu AAamma yushrikoona
And they said the Jews flogged “allah's” Son with the utmost vehemence,and they said the Christians, The Messiah, “allah's” Son, this,their word with their mouths,they resemble Word whom they disbelieved from before,“allah”,he killed them,when they are turned away. They have taken their learned persons and their monks (as) lords from superior (to) “allah” and The Messiah, Mary's Son; and they commanded not except that they may worship one god, no god except He, glory be to Him from what they associate partners.(9.30 – 31)
These ayat are merely wholesale copied from the Holy Bible….up to, and including, the proclamation that Jesus Christ is deity.
I have yet to encounter anyone who knows more about the true Christian message of the Koran than I do.
I don't know why he was banned, either.
(but since I haven't contributed financially to CC, I just go along with what the mods decide... just along for the ride...
but say, Bowman, you seem knowledgeable about islam and the koran... do muslims agree that jesus rose from the dead?
Good question.
Most followers of islam do their very best to deny that the Crucifixion event even took place....that way, they are relieved from having to deal with His singular Resurrection.
All Muslims reference one misinterpreted verse from the Koran, 4.157, with which, they create an entire doctrine of denial...when, in fact, this verse confirms the Biblical stance that Jesus was crucified until death upon The Cross.
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There are billions of Muslims in the world and a lot of them are illiterate or who have never read the Koran so they don't know what the Koran teaches.
They are numerous....but here is a simple example...
فصل لربك وانحر
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108.2 So you pray to your Lord and Sacrifice.
You people need to do some fact checking before accusing others of questioning moderator action...mitspa-induced herd mentality is a non-sequitur.
Magenta's material is copy-pasted from the internet....there is no research involved on her part...just a knee-jerk reaction...designed to be a predictable response and praise..
Islam is the world's largest Christian cult.
We know that cults usually like to prey upon undereducated people...
I asked for the Koran address for this statement.
That would be what islam has taught them...however, the Koran maintains that Jesus Christ is God.
You gave me this.
108.2 So you pray to your Lord and Sacrifice.
This does not say that "Christ is God".
I would appreciate you complete list of Koran addresses where it states "Christ is God".
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