Similarities in Islam & Christianity

[Chuckt]

I gotta agree with Magenta, here... Bowman's charge of "no research" remains unsupported.

In some colleges, you have to read a certain number of books to get an "A". There is a smaller number of books to get a "B" and a lower number of books to get a "C". This argument is like: "Whose research is best?" I know people who have an unbearable criteria for something to be research.

 

[Magenta]

Most people don't understand that most websites are copyrighted even if they don't say they are and you have to get permission to post someone else's work. I look for websites that I can copy and they usually have rules or I get permission from the source or I am careful to quote around 500 words or so under fair use.

About TheReligionofPeace.com Site

I see nothing on their site about restricting the use their materials. Their aim is to get the information out there. Alex kept calling it an anti Islamic site, but they claim they are non-partisan. Here is what they say:

TheReligionofPeace.com is a pluralistic, non-partisan site concerned with Islam's true political and religious teachings according to its own texts. The purpose is to underscore the threat that Islam poses to human dignity and freedom, part of which includes documenting the violence and dysfunction that ensues as a direct consequence of this religion's supremacist teachings.

TROP is not associated with any organization. The site does not promote any religion, but it is not hostile to religion. We generally support the rights of atheists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, homosexuals, women, Muslims and anyone else on the planet to live as they wish without violating the rights of others.

 

[Mitspa]

In some colleges, you have to read a certain number of books to get an "A". There is a smaller number of books to get a "B" and a lower number of books to get a "C". This argument is like: "Whose research is best?" I know people who have an unbearable criteria for something to be research.

no need to research the fact that islam is a murderous religion and in complete contradiction to Christianity

 

[Magenta]

Maybe Alex would like to send them a death threat? There is a form for that

TheReligionofPeace.com: Send us a Death Threat?

 

[Magenta]

no need to research the fact that islam is a murderous religion and in complete contradiction to Christianity

It certainly does not take much research to find that out. I wonder how many
people are still ignorantly going around calling Islam a religion of peace.

 

[Chuckt]

It certainly does not take much research to find that out. I wonder how many
people are still ignorantly going around calling Islam a religion of peace.

Four Muslims bought the company where I work. They are always shaking hands. They are always polite. They are very respectful.

How can you make the case against all Muslims?

 

[slave]

Well i am as well Christian as u are. From the comments i read you really make me sad. U need to learn to accept people & listen to them, then just give your advise. What you did was turn him away from God. I hope you wake up. Plus you supporting trumph makes me feel sick. Trumph is another crusader who will bring stains on Christianity.

Christ's point and demeanor is that no one can bring stains on God, but if one tries it's His fight, and judgement not ours. Either from the anti-God camp or the godly camp. God is above reproach, Jesus is above reproach, and none of us are - none; outside of Christ.. The point is to live by that standard always in surrendering from camp 1, or by way of humility from camp 2. God has equipped us to have victory in love over sin; not issue judgement because of sin.

 

[Magenta]

Four Muslims bought the company where I work. They are always shaking hands. They are always polite. They are very respectful.

How can you make the case against all Muslims?

I am talking about a religion. Do you seriously not see the difference?

 

[blue_ladybug]

Four Muslims bought the company where I work. They are always shaking hands. They are always polite. They are very respectful.

How can you make the case against all Muslims?

Ever hear the saying "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer"? 'Nuff said.. :/

 

[notuptome]

Four Muslims bought the company where I work. They are always shaking hands. They are always polite. They are very respectful.

How can you make the case against all Muslims?

I always say mistrust everyone. Could be the Muslim version of the Trojan horse. Obsequious always makes me nervous.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[blue_ladybug]

Who is trumph?

 

[prove-all]

King Abdullah’s Death Fulfills ‘End-Time Prophecies,’ Say Shiites.

Lol. Where do they get these jokes. Who knew the king will be that fat abdullat

now [if you] had done [any research] before commenting,
you would find this is real and is not a joke,
but [you assume] it is without checking facts

 

[Chuckt]

I am talking about a religion. Do you seriously not see the difference?

How does that answer my question? I work for four Muslims. They like me. They don't discriminate. They are keeping me employed. They are into making money. They acknowledge God but they don't force the issue. They want to be liked.

 

[Magenta]

How does that answer my question? I work for four Muslims. They like me. They don't discriminate. They are keeping me employed. They are into making money. They acknowledge God but they don't force the issue. They want to be liked.

How is your question valid in any way? How am I "making a case against all Muslims" by sharing what their Quaran, and the supporting Hadiths and siras say? Just because you know four who like you and want to be liked, we should ignore that the stated purpose of Islam as a whole is to bring the whole world under their subjugation? Dream on Chuckie. Or are you one who will agree with them, that there is no god but Allah, and his prophet is Muhammad. Or somehow you think that all this beheading and raping has nothing to do with Mohammed being their ideal person, held up as a paragon of virtue? Mohammed, the adulterous war mongering pedophile... do you have a liking for him over Jesus?

 

[Magenta]

Maybe you want to see women and girls dressed like this:

And made to look like this for desiring an education:

And do you want to marry nine years olds also? Just wondering what you are advocating for, Chuck.

 

[Mitspa]

How does that answer my question? I work for four Muslims. They like me. They don't discriminate. They are keeping me employed. They are into making money. They acknowledge God but they don't force the issue. They want to be liked.

I have a good muslim friend as well...it don't mean we teach a bunch of nonsense about islam being Christian ...

 

[Chuckt]

Maybe you want to see women and girls dressed like this:

And made to look like this for desiring an education:

And do you want to marry nine years olds also? Just wondering what you are advocating for, Chuck.

It is called red herring or poisoning the well.

I have met some Jewish friends. Rafael let me meet his Rabbi and he has a historical book about the Catholic church and Nazis killing Jews during WWII and you can't tell them Catholics aren't Christian. They have historical pictures so you can't deny. Why are you allowed to be different from the Catholics that killed Jews and while you have to lump all muslims together?

 

[Bowman]

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10,40:46 and 50:26..

From your 'research', show us the Arabic word translated as 'hard' or 'ruthless'...

محمدرسولالله والذينمعهأشداءعلىالكفار​

رحماءبينهمتريهمركعاسجدايبتغونفضلامن​

اللهورضوناسيماهمفيوجوههممنأثر​

السجودذلكمثلهمفيالتوريةومثلهمفيالإنجيل​

كزرعأخرجشطءهفءازرهفاستغلظفاستوى​

علىسوقهيعجبالزراعليغيظبهمالكفاروعد​

اللهالذينءامنواوعملواالصلحتمنهممغفرة​

وأجراعظيما

 

[Chuckt]

How is your question valid in any way? How am I "making a case against all Muslims" by sharing what their Quaran, and the supporting Hadiths and siras say? Just because you know four who like you and want to be liked, we should ignore that the stated purpose of Islam as a whole is to bring the whole world under their subjugation? Dream on Chuckie. Or are you one who will agree with them, that there is no god but Allah, and his prophet is Muhammad. Or somehow you think that all this beheading and raping has nothing to do with Mohammed being their ideal person, held up as a paragon of virtue? Mohammed, the adulterous war mongering pedophile... do you have a liking for him over Jesus?

I could let you meet a Muslim man who will tell you it is all about interpretation.

 

[Bowman]

And they said the Jews flogged “allah's” Son with the utmost vehemence,and they said the Christians, The Messiah, “allah's” Son, this,their word with their mouths,they resemble Word whom they disbelieved from before,“allah”,he killed them,when they are turned away. They have taken their learned persons and their monks (as) lords from superior (to) “allah” and The Messiah, Mary's Son; and they commanded not except that they may worship one god, no god except He, glory be to Him from what they associate partners.(9.30 – 31)


None of this states that "Jesus Christ is God". This entire paragraph is a derogatory utterance against the Jews. It is a feeble attempt make Allah far superior to the God of the Jews and his Son who the Christians held to be the Messiah.

I suggest that rather than trying to twist the Koran into an acceptable source of God's word, you study it from the point of view of the Imams teaching it. They don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God, nor that Allah is the same God that Christians worship.

It most certainly does...

اتخذوا أحبارهم ورهبنهم أربابا من دون الله

والمسيح ابن مريم وما أمروا إلا ليعبدوا إلها

وحدا لا إله إلا هو سبحنه عما يشركون​

Ittakhathoo ahbarahum waruhbanahum arbaban min dooni Allahi waalmaseeha ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahan wahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahu AAamma yushrikoona


9.31 They have taken their learned persons and their monks (as) lords from superior (to) “allah” and The Messiah, Mary's Son; and they commanded not except that they may worship one god, no god except He, glory be to Him from what they associate partners.



The Messiah is included along with “allah” via the copulative conjunction “wa”, as being part and parcel of the prepositional phrase initiating with “min” (from).

This is the same formula as used in the Holy Bible to show Jesus' deity with God The Father.

You will see the modern English translators deceitfully butchering this text by inserting all sorts of add-on-words in parenthesis – in order to make this ayah conform to the Islamic paradigm.

Fact of the matter is that this ayah proclaims Jesus Christ as God Almighty.