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ThyKingdomComeSoon

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They are easily reconcilable.
certain points yes but in essence the massage is not the same.

I have asked the question below many times but I do not recall that someone did ever answer it, here it is;

What did Paul teach or say that Christ, the son of GOD did not already teach or say?

Blessings
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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Hey guys. Mr. ThyKingdom, thank you for posting your experiential anecdote. I really appreciate it. This is closer to what I created this thread for. To be most precise, I have really been trying to create an interactive discussion between several Christians online and Jesus in a present way. I gave a couple examples by posting last night and this morning my prayers to him and his response to me. I am hoping others do the same, and maybe we can get close enough to each other to join in each other's prayers, and hear Jesus speak to us for others, and also comment on what Jesus is telling each other, etc. Since you get words of knowledge, maybe you can join in a present discussion for some of our specific needs, and we can also minister to you. I want to create discussion that includes Jesus, invites Jesus, and would definitely not make him ashamed to be a part of. Finally, I was pleased to read your post backing me up about Paul for selfish reasons, but I'd really rather quash that whole discussion, since it has become divisive and has hurt my agenda of approaching Jesus's face together. Thank you so much for joining us, and I really look forward to hearing more from you. Also, thank you for telling us what Jesus looked like when He revealed Himself to you when you were 19. I hope we can welcome Him enough to encourage Him to reveal Himself to us here in some way.
Finally someone who wants to discuss Jesus, Yes I am all in!!!

As for sharing, I try but not many people believe, If they only knew i try only to help and certainly not Boast which I detest.

the latest revelation was about 5 years ago, it was about Jacob's trouble and a coming exodus. I am very slow and it takes time for me to make links but I KNOW we are close to or beginning the period describes as Jacob's trouble see Jeremiah 30:1-10 below;
Restoration for Israel and Judah (KJV)
Jer 30:1 The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
Jer 30:2 Thus speaketh the LORD God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.
Jer 30:3 For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.
Jer 30:4 And these are the words that the LORD spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.
Jer 30:5 For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.
Jer 30:6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?
Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Jer 30:10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

I am certain this is coming very soon the warning was certain day after day flashing in my mind eye for more than a month with a terrifying feeling that some horrible, evil events would start within a few years. Unfortunately I did not see what event(s) so I do nor know what will happen yet anyways.

Blessings.
 

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#83
Considering the direction this thread has taken, this looks like a good spot for this song:




Smell the color nine
I believe that the color eight's scent is a tad fresher than nine but that's just me.
 
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Jesus has always been patient with me
family situations are difficult when no other family members are christians thats for sure, but remember Jesus own family and town didnt believe him, though he was still obligated to them.

He got John to look after Mary after he left. So he made arrangements for her care. I note that Jesus own brothers and sisters did not or were not willing to have this responsibilty.
Lanolin, thank you for sharing. For transparency's sake, I am having problems with my family, which are Christian.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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Hey guys. Mr. ThyKingdom, thank you for posting your experiential anecdote. I really appreciate it. This is closer to what I created this thread for. To be most precise, I have really been trying to create an interactive discussion between several Christians online and Jesus in a present way. I gave a couple examples by posting last night and this morning my prayers to him and his response to me. I am hoping others do the same, and maybe we can get close enough to each other to join in each other's prayers, and hear Jesus speak to us for others, and also comment on what Jesus is telling each other, etc. Since you get words of knowledge, maybe you can join in a present discussion for some of our specific needs, and we can also minister to you. I want to create discussion that includes Jesus, invites Jesus, and would definitely not make him ashamed to be a part of. Finally, I was pleased to read your post backing me up about Paul for selfish reasons, but I'd really rather quash that whole discussion, since it has become divisive and has hurt my agenda of approaching Jesus's face together. Thank you so much for joining us, and I really look forward to hearing more from you. Also, thank you for telling us what Jesus looked like when He revealed Himself to you when you were 19. I hope we can welcome Him enough to encourage Him to reveal Himself to us here in some way.

Brian, this is close to the Jesus vision I had but he was dressed differently, his nose was straight however, did not have this bump. the image was recreated from the shroud of TurinHis nose was probably broken when he was beaten, rejected.
:cry:here is the link below;
https://aleteia.org/2023/04/21/this-hyperrealistic-jesus-is-based-on-the-shroud-of-turin/

when I saw this image it brought in me strong emotions;



Blessings.
 

Lynx

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#87
Hi guys, last night I posted a brief account of how the Lord answered me in prayer, what he said to me, but it got pushed back to the next page by all the replies arguing about the Bible. I keep trying to say that I made this thread so we could talk about talking with Jesus. Please please please can we share our mutual experiences talking with the Lord, and what he is presently telling us, and how we are growing? I apologize for criticizing Paul. It created so much controversy. Please forgive me. Can we please try to focus on our present relationships with Jesus together? FYI, I prayed to him again this morning and made a post about that, so now I have shared twice how he answered my prayers, one last night, and one this morning.
Usually what God tells me is "You REALLY don't want to say that!" I have inherited a sharp wit from my family, and when people get mean I usually have something very incisive and clever to say. And usually God says "You REALLY don't want to say that!" :censored::cautious:

I'm getting pretty good at listening to God... Mostly... At least 83% of the time. When I don't listen, I always regret it, so like I said I'm getting better about it.
 
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Finally someone who wants to discuss Jesus, Yes I am all in!!!

As for sharing, I try but not many people believe, If they only knew i try only to help and certainly not Boast which I detest.

the latest revelation was about 5 years ago, it was about Jacob's trouble and a coming exodus. I am very slow and it takes time for me to make links but I KNOW we are close to or beginning the period describes as Jacob's trouble see Jeremiah 30:1-10 below;
Restoration for Israel and Judah (KJV)
Jer 30:1 The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
Jer 30:2 Thus speaketh the LORD God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.
Jer 30:3 For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.
Jer 30:4 And these are the words that the LORD spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.
Jer 30:5 For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.
Jer 30:6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?
Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Jer 30:10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

I am certain this is coming very soon the warning was certain day after day flashing in my mind eye for more than a month with a terrifying feeling that some horrible, evil events would start within a few years. Unfortunately I did not see what event(s) so I do nor know what will happen yet anyways.

Blessings.
Hi Kingdom. I'd like to keep the discussion relevant to our present lives, so I will say in regard to your premonition that I seem to have felt a definite negative shift in culture in 2018, which has been affecting me. A lot of comic violence in the media, a lot of young people directing the flow of knowledge, no more trace of modesty, complete normalization of fornication and promiscuity, a lot of breaking of old foundations in our culture, a lot of scandalizing churchgoers, a lot of ideological revolt with a lot of new very charged vocabulary, a lot of hatred from people claiming to stand against it, etc. Personally I am very scared and have a hard time sleeping at night, because I am not secure in life, and I am dependent on others to take care of me, and I don't have anyone young who respects my old values. So the horrible evil future you prophesy could come very true for me. One of my goals in asking people to come together to seek Jesus is to find real answers from Him in our daily lives to prepare us for the nebulous future. Do you think that you can pray for some soft words of small direction or light encouragement from Jesus?
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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Hi Kingdom. I'd like to keep the discussion relevant to our present lives, so I will say in regard to your premonition that I seem to have felt a definite negative shift in culture in 2018, which has been affecting me. A lot of comic violence in the media, a lot of young people directing the flow of knowledge, no more trace of modesty, complete normalization of fornication and promiscuity, a lot of breaking of old foundations in our culture, a lot of scandalizing churchgoers, a lot of ideological revolt with a lot of new very charged vocabulary, a lot of hatred from people claiming to stand against it, etc. Personally I am very scared and have a hard time sleeping at night, because I am not secure in life, and I am dependent on others to take care of me, and I don't have anyone young who respects my old values. So the horrible evil future you prophesy could come very true for me. One of my goals in asking people to come together to seek Jesus is to find real answers from Him in our daily lives to prepare us for the nebulous future. Do you think that you can pray for some soft words of small direction or light encouragement from Jesus?

Hello Brian, I will certainly pray to our lord for all our sakes in these difficult times, however do not fear. Put all your trust in the Lord. We are flesh and have a very limited time on this earth, what awaits in the next life at the resurrection is what counts, focus on this and GOD's promise, Jesus said that where he goes he will prepare a place for us, I focus on this all the time when I see the state of this world, things are getting worse by the minute I see the difference from year to year, we must prepare and repent, clear out thoughts from the constant assault of evil around us and focus on the Goodness and perfection of GOD who never changes.

Blessings
 

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Many of us answered His call to cut the cable and have no TV for some years now, it is a great way to keep peace with oneself and our Lord.:)
 
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Brian, this is close to the Jesus vision I had but he was dressed differently, his nose was straight however, did not have this bump. the image was recreated from the shroud of TurinHis nose was probably broken when he was beaten, rejected.
:cry:here is the link below;
https://aleteia.org/2023/04/21/this-hyperrealistic-jesus-is-based-on-the-shroud-of-turin/

when I saw this image it brought in me strong emotions;



Blessings.
Hi TKC,
I really wish I could recognize the Lord from an image like that. 13 years ago I thought I had a theophany, an experience where I met someone in real life who I thought was Jesus. He looked different from the above picture and had a very intense aura of majestic authority that emanated from him. Just being next to this man, I felt as if he were like a war hero captain who had accomplished incredible feats of bravery. He was very good looking, too. He had a presence of power and grace. I thought this was Jesus. But he looked completely different from the old Jewish look, not middle eastern at all, except he did have dark wavy hair. But very fair skin, and piercingly blue eyes. He was tall and lanky. When I was going through an incredibly stressful time years later, I thought I saw him again.
Due to these conflicting versions of what Jesus looks like, I really don't know, and I have gotten a lot of things wrong before as far as believing esoteric ideas.
I just know that regardless of what Jesus looks like, his authority and glory and grace command my respect and devotion, and when I approach him in prayer I very mindfully address him with a balance of acknowledging his superiority over me and my relationship with him as his son.
 

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Many of us answered His call to cut the cable and have no TV for some years now, it is a great way to keep peace with oneself and our Lord.:)
Shoot it's doggone easy to cut the cable these days. We have xumo, pluto, hulu, netflix, all kinds of internet alternatives.
 
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Many of us answered His call to cut the cable and have no TV for some years now, it is a great way to keep peace with oneself and our Lord.:)
If you can stay at peace in your mind at all times, you will be secure in all areas of your life. Walking in peace with Jesus is wonderful and preclusive of many problems. Could you pray for me? Something came in between Jesus and me 16 years ago and I never regained the simple peace and freedom from temptation I used to have.
 

Lynx

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Hi TKC,
I really wish I could recognize the Lord from an image like that. 13 years ago I thought I had a theophany, an experience where I met someone in real life who I thought was Jesus. He looked different from the above picture and had a very intense aura of majestic authority that emanated from him. Just being next to this man, I felt as if he were like a war hero captain who had accomplished incredible feats of bravery. He was very good looking, too. He had a presence of power and grace. I thought this was Jesus. But he looked completely different from the old Jewish look, not middle eastern at all, except he did have dark wavy hair. But very fair skin, and piercingly blue eyes. He was tall and lanky. When I was going through an incredibly stressful time years later, I thought I saw him again.
Due to these conflicting versions of what Jesus looks like, I really don't know, and I have gotten a lot of things wrong before as far as believing esoteric ideas.
I just know that regardless of what Jesus looks like, his authority and glory and grace command my respect and devotion, and when I approach him in prayer I very mindfully address him with a balance of acknowledging his superiority over me and my relationship with him as his son.
Oooh I got TWO songs on that. (Well, actually a lot more, but... brevity.)


When your words are His words
And your ways, His ways
When your hands are the hands He can use
When your heart's desire is just to be
A heart He reaches through
That's when Jesus
Looks a lot like you

- 4Him



OR




I saw the face of Jesus
Down on sixteenth avenue
He was sleeping in an old car
While his mom went looking for food
And I heard the voice of Jesus
Gently whisper to my soul
Didn't you say you wanted to know Me?
Well here I am, and it's getting cold

So what now?
What will you do now that you've found Me?
What now?
What will you do with this treasure you found?
I know I may not look
Like what you expected
But if you'll remember
This is right where I said I would be
You've found me!
So what now?

- Steven Curtis Chapman
 
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Caring for the unfortunate is overwhelming. You can immerse yourself in it and feel like you've made no impact at all. You can also get tangled with people in a way that you lose your freedom to them. Then if you cut yourself loose from the people you have been helping, you have sinned horribly against them, but hey, you are free again. It really messed with my faith in Jesus, because I would help people so much, but then lose my autonomy.
 
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Oooh I got TWO songs on that. (Well, actually a lot more, but... brevity.)


When your words are His words
And your ways, His ways
When your hands are the hands He can use
When your heart's desire is just to be
A heart He reaches through
That's when Jesus
Looks a lot like you

- 4Him



OR




I saw the face of Jesus
Down on sixteenth avenue
He was sleeping in an old car
While his mom went looking for food
And I heard the voice of Jesus
Gently whisper to my soul
Didn't you say you wanted to know Me?
Well here I am, and it's getting cold

So what now?
What will you do now that you've found Me?
What now?
What will you do with this treasure you found?
I know I may not look
Like what you expected
But if you'll remember
This is right where I said I would be
You've found me!
So what now?

- Steven Curtis Chapman
Caring for the unfortunate is overwhelming. You can immerse yourself in it and feel like you've made no impact at all. You can also get tangled with people in a way that you lose your freedom to them. Then if you cut yourself loose from the people you have been helping, you have sinned horribly against them, but hey, you are free again. It really messed with my faith in Jesus, because I would help people so much, but then lose my autonomy.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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Hi TKC,
I really wish I could recognize the Lord from an image like that. 13 years ago I thought I had a theophany, an experience where I met someone in real life who I thought was Jesus. He looked different from the above picture and had a very intense aura of majestic authority that emanated from him. Just being next to this man, I felt as if he were like a war hero captain who had accomplished incredible feats of bravery. He was very good looking, too. He had a presence of power and grace. I thought this was Jesus. But he looked completely different from the old Jewish look, not middle eastern at all, except he did have dark wavy hair. But very fair skin, and piercingly blue eyes. He was tall and lanky. When I was going through an incredibly stressful time years later, I thought I saw him again.
Due to these conflicting versions of what Jesus looks like, I really don't know, and I have gotten a lot of things wrong before as far as believing esoteric ideas.
I just know that regardless of what Jesus looks like, his authority and glory and grace command my respect and devotion, and when I approach him in prayer I very mindfully address him with a balance of acknowledging his superiority over me and my relationship with him as his son.
I think you may have seen an Angel but also Jesus from NT accounts can take any appearance but i am thinking an angel probably.

Cheers.
 

ZNP

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Hi, I would like to have a serious discussion about seeking the Lord. I have been praying earnestly the last few weeks, trying to get the Lord's help. He has been helping me some, and I have a long way to go. Is there anyone else out there mature who wants to talk about Jesus experientially (and not ram scripture down the throat of whoever will listen to them)? I am looking for a discussion among equals of whoever speaks to and hears Jesus on a daily basis.
When I was in college I was struggling to find a major, I was no good in Engineering so I was in Geology and was doing well. But then we were going on a field trip to find fossils and I was in dread during the entire bus ride. I had tried to find fossils before and had been a failure. In my mind we were going to look for fossils, I wouldn't be able to find any and then the professor would tell me that I wasn't cut out to be a geologist.

I got off the bus like I was walking to the gallows. He took us down to a river with a bunch of pebbles on the bank and told us to look for fossils. I was simply going through the motions so I bent over, picked up a pebble and looked at it. It was a fossil! I couldn't believe it. I picked up another pebble, another fossil! Every single pebble on that river bank was a fossil! That is when I learned that geologists are not good at finding fossils, they are good at knowing where to look for fossils.

Some people cannot find a good church but that is simply because they don't know where to look. I recently moved 2,000 miles from home and found a good church immediately.

Step 1 -- pray

Step 2 -- Follow these easy four rules

Rule #1, do they have a large congregation, well funded, effective online ministry? If so, cross them off the list. Jesus said the son of man has nowhere to lay his head. I'm not interested in a pastor who has a private jet, or a luxury car or a mansion. One point of emphasis, if they refer to the pastor as "the apostle" or "having a special anointing", flee.

Rule #2, do they have 500 or more in the congregation? Cross them off the list. It is much easier to become a contributing member to the church if it is smaller. (One caveat, avoid these small churches where everyone is related -- they are simply a tax dodge). If you go into the book room and they only carry books from the one Bible teacher who established this church, leave. This is a "franchise", the church is simply a front for selling this guys books.

Rule #3, do they confess that the Bible is the word of God, infallible and inerrant? I don't want to hear that some verses are out of date, or no longer applicable. If they do not accept the word of God as infallible and inerrant I cross them off my list. You have to be very arrogant to think you know better than the Bible, I don't want to be associated with any church that is so arrogant they will bring the judgment of God down on themselves. Usually you can tell on their website where they stand.

Rule #4, there are no other rules. No church is perfect. Work to be a positive member of the congregation that builds up and doesn't tear down. Understand that everyone including the pastor is human.

You prayed that the Lord led you to where you need to be, so trust the Lord. You can always supplement the pastor's sermons with spiritual books and other ministries that are online.