The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation

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Maybe they read this verse ?

Of course many might insist Paul is wrong but it’s really straight forward

“be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You won’t find another name in the nt anyone was baptized into , anyone prayed in , or did anything in other than the name of Jesus

“And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you know how your saying three persons ? The whole trinity is in one person , jesus christ

“For in him ( Jesus ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God is one and there’s one name

You choose to ignore all scriptures that say otherwise. The whole trinity is one person? LOL. First, neither you nor I can fully understand the Divine Nature of God. The Word of God clearly states Father, The Son, and the Spirit of God, three distinct personifications Yet ONE. A mystery, the word of God says, but you know better? Your fleshly mind cannot understand what God said; we will not be able to until we have been glorified.
Ephesians 5: 20-21,
20giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, 21submitting to one another in the fear of God.

You are correct that Jesus saves, every 1st grader in Bible class learns this.

And when does Jesus save?

Baptism, which is like that water, now saves you. Baptism doesn’t save by removing dirt from the body. Rather, baptism is a request to God for a clear conscience. It saves you through Jesus Christ, who came back from death to life.

They learn this in 2nd grade Bible class.

Salvation happens when one has Heard the Gospel Message of Jesus Christ, which is the power of GOD for Salvation, as Romans 1:16
srares. The Holy Spirit convicts the person to see their sin and need for forgiveness, which leads the person to surrender and repeat and receive Grace through faith in the Death, Burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ and accept the gift of salvation which Christ as provided Roman Chapter 10: 9-11

Then is obedience one follows Christ into water Baptism to symbolically say to the world they are no longer alive to sin but died and are born again in to new life as Roman chapter 6 states.



6 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?

4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with,[a] that we should no longer be slaves to sin— 7 because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.

8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

You choose to ignore all scriptures that say otherwise. The whole trinity is one person? LOL. First, neither you nor I can fully understand the Divine Nature of God. The Word of God clearly states Father, The Son, and the Spirit of God, three distinct personifications Yet ONE. A mystery, the word of God says, but you know better? Your fleshly mind cannot understand what God said; we will not be able to until we have been glorified.
Ephesians 5: 20-21,
20giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, 21submitting to one another in the fear of God.



Salvation happens when one has Heard the Gospel Message of Jesus Christ, which is the power of GOD for Salvation, as Romans 1:16
srares. The Holy Spirit convicts the person to see their sin and need for forgiveness, which leads the person to surrender and repeat and receive Grace through faith in the Death, Burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ and accept the gift of salvation which Christ as provided Roman Chapter 10: 9-11

Then is obedience one follows Christ into water Baptism to symbolically say to the world they are no longer alive to sin but died and are born again in to new life as Roman chapter 6 states.



6 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?

4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with,[a] that we should no longer be slaves to sin— 7 because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.

8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. 10 The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.

“You choose to ignore all scriptures that say otherwise.”

yeah I’m probably ignoring scriptire ….that’s the issue

“The whole trinity is one person? LOL.”

“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭6:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him ( singular) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. ( all of God in one body one person )

And ye are complete in him, ( singular ) which is the head of all principality and power:”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:8-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God doesn’t have three names and he isn’t three people he’s one person and his name is Jesus .

The holy spirit is his spirit not a different person

“For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭1:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Spirit of Christ , body of Christ , name of Christ Jesus ,

But since your sure show me one example of anyone baptizing someone in any other name than Jesus , I don’t think you can do that I think you’ll just explain how foolish I am and how I won’t acknowledge scriptures but I’m asking you to provide a single one tbat shows someone being baptized in any name other than Jesus ……

Can show you what I think in the scriptures your telling me I won’t acknolwedge the many scriptures explaining different but I’m asking you for one scripture that shows anyone being baptized in another name other than this name

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,


and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭

We aren’t baptized in the name “ the Jesus “ because Jesus is a name “ the Holy Ghost isn’t a name “ the son “ not a name the sons name is Jesus , the holt spirit and s his spirit not a different person with another name

“When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭19:5‬ ‭KJV

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭6:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

his name isn’t really even a question but because i “ignore so much scripture “I guess I just don’t get it …..because as you say no one could ever understand God….

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Beckworth]

Part Two:

What Does “In The Name Of …” mean?

Oneness proponents have a simplistic view of what it means to be baptized “in the name,” as if there is a specific magic incantation that must be uttered in order for baptism to “work” and the person to truly be saved.

Colossians 3:17 says:

Whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father.

Does this mean you rise out of bed and, all day long, you say:

“I wash my face in the name of Jesus.” I put on clothes in the name of Jesus. I eat my Captain Crunch in the name of Jesus …”

Or maybe Colossians 3:17 just means that you do everything under the authority — and in worship of — Jesus.

It’s the same with prayer. Praying, “in the name of Jesus” means praying as directed and authorized by Jesus (as in the Lord’s Prayer, which does not include any reference to God the Son). You don’t have to literally say, “In the name of Jesus” for God to hear your prayer (not that there’s anything wrong with saying, “in the name of Jesus”).

In 1 Corinthians 1:14-15, Paul writes:

I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, so that no one would say you were baptized in my name.

Paul wasn’t worried that anyone would have accused him of literally saying, “I now baptize you in the name of Paul.” He meant, “No one can accuse me of baptizing under my own authority, instead of Christ’s.”

Baptism “in the name of Jesus Christ” (Acts 2:38) means baptism as commanded by the risen Lord (in Matthew 28:19), not something different.

While I agree that your explanation of “in the name of”. Means “by the authority of”, I really think what Paul is condemning in 1 Cor. 1 are divisions among the Christians there because they were calling themselves after men’s names—like “Apollos,”and “Cephas”. See verses 10-13. He says there were “divisions” and “contentions” among then. Much like people today call themselves Lutherans” after Martin Luther. It seems they called themselves after the person who baptized them; which is why Paul said he was glad he didn’t baptized many of them. He did not want people calling themselves after “Paul. Verse 12. He them asks some questions; “Is Christ divided?”

This tells us a lot, if men would be willing to listen. 1) Christ doesn’t like division among His followers. “Denomination” means “division”. If I go to the bank to draw out $100, the teller will ask me “What denominations do you want the money divided into? She/he means do you want it divided into $5’s, $10,’s, $20,’s or $50’s? Those are all denominations of money, called by different names. Christianity has “denominations”, also; although not with God’s approval.. John 17 Jesus prayed to the Father that all of His followers might be one—like He and the Father are one. Can you imagine Jesus a Baptist and God the Father a Methodist? That’s not being “one.” That’s being two. He’s not talking about being one personality. He’s talking about agreeing as one. Jesus and the Father are in total agreement. 1 Cor 1 and John 17 are a condemnation of denominationalism.

2) the second point to notice here is what Paul says about baptism. He makes the argument that it takes two things for a person to be called by another person’s name. One, that person must have been crucified for you. And two, you have to have been baptized into that person’s name. Verses 12-13. This is his reason for saying they should not call themselves by the names of Apollos or Cephas. This makes perfect sense. I call myself a CHRISTian because Christ has been crucified for me and I have been baptized into His name. Therefore, I can call my self a CHRIST-Ian. Galatians 3:27 tells us if we have been baptized INTO CHRIST, we have PUT ON CHRIST. So this information in 1 Cor. 1 brings up an important question: what about those who have not been baptized into the name of Christ? Can they really call themselves after Christ—a Christian? 1 Cor. 1 suggests “no.” How does that not make baptism necessary to be a Christian?
So, so much of the New Testament teaches the necessity of baptism.

 

[Beckworth]

“Please give us a scripture that says , “ name of”

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“]I don’t see the word “ONLY”. In any of these verses. “

“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭

Seems like I’ve shared those many times actually but can you show any scripture even one where someone’s baptized in any other name ?

“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, “

“Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:48‬ ‭

“When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭19:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

seems like jesus is the name at least in my own belief . But honestly I don’t think the issue is that I haven’t shared scriptures to support what I’m saying seems like they are simple and plain

Yes, I can show you another scripture that shows we are baptized in not just one other name , but TWO other names.
MATTHEW 28:18-19. “…baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, Son, and HOLY GHOST. And I still don’t see the word “ONLY” in one single verse that you have given. Baptizing in the name of Jesus and baptizing in the name of Jesus ONLY are two different things with different meanings. The last is exclusive, the first is not.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Yes, I can show you another scripture that shows we are baptized in not just one other name , but TWO other names.
MATTHEW 28:18-19. “…baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, Son, and HOLY GHOST. And I still don’t see the word “ONLY” in one single verse that you have given. Baptizing in the name of Jesus and baptizing in the name of Jesus ONLY are two different things with different meanings. The last is exclusive, the first is not.

….ok

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭

 

[CS1]

While I agree that your explanation of “in the name of”. Means “by the authority of”, I really think what Paul is condemning in 1 Cor. 1 are divisions among the Christians there because they were calling themselves after men’s names—like “Apollos,”and “Cephas”. See verses 10-13. He says there were “divisions” and “contentions” among then. Much like people today call themselves Lutherans” after Martin Luther. It seems they called themselves after the person who baptized them; which is why Paul said he was glad he didn’t baptized many of them. He did not want people calling themselves after “Paul. Verse 12. He them asks some questions; “Is Christ divided?”

This tells us a lot, if men would be willing to listen. 1) Christ doesn’t like division among His followers. “Denomination” means “division”. If I go to the bank to draw out $100, the teller will ask me “What denominations do you want the money divided into? She/he means do you want it divided into $5’s, $10,’s, $20,’s or $50’s? Those are all denominations of money, called by different names. Christianity has “denominations”, also; although not with God’s approval.. John 17 Jesus prayed to the Father that all of His followers might be one—like He and the Father are one. Can you imagine Jesus a Baptist and God the Father a Methodist? That’s not being “one.” That’s being two. He’s not talking about being one personality. He’s talking about agreeing as one. Jesus and the Father are in total agreement. 1 Cor 1 and John 17 are a condemnation of denominationalism.

2) the second point to notice here is what Paul says about baptism. He makes the argument that it takes two things for a person to be called by another person’s name. One, that person must have been crucified for you. And two, you have to have been baptized into that person’s name. Verses 12-13. This is his reason for saying they should not call themselves by the names of Apollos or Cephas. This makes perfect sense. I call myself a CHRISTian because Christ has been crucified for me and I have been baptized into His name. Therefore, I can call my self a CHRIST-Ian. Galatians 3:27 tells us if we have been baptized INTO CHRIST, we have PUT ON CHRIST. So this information in 1 Cor. 1 brings up an important question: what about those who have not been baptized into the name of Christ? Can they really call themselves after Christ—a Christian? 1 Cor. 1 suggests “no.” How does that not make baptism necessary to be a Christian?
So, so much of the New Testament teaches the necessity of baptism.

I can see the point you're making. I never said Baptism should not be done. Baptism in the name of Jesus and in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are valid water baptisms. I was not I who said that baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is invalid and those who did so are not saved. Those who did are here in this thread. That is far more problematic than arguing over whether I was baptized by Apollos, or Paul, etc...

 

[Beckworth]

Yeah.. being baptized 'for' the remission of sins..

First compare this with salvation verses all through the book of John. Such as John 3:16 and 5:24. Also Romans 10:9-10.

No water baptism is mentioned, but salvation is given.

Now going back to Acts 2:38.. what is the context? What is the condition on not receiving salvation?

Unbelief is the condition on no salvation..not water baptism.

So 'for' the remission of sins.. is akin to.. 'because you already have' remission of sins.

So someone will say a converted person WILL definitely get water baptism. That it is inevitable once converted they WILL get water baptised.

Where is that in scripture?

Just because John talks about faith and does not mention baptism does not “prove” baptism is not necessary. John’s purpose for writing his book is so that everyone might have “faith” and believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He says so in John 20:30-31. He meant to emphasize “faith.” He also did not mention “repentance.” Does that “prove” repentance is not necessary? Does that mean that we can be saved without repentance? If not, why not? By the same method, I can prove that “faith” is not necessary to salvation. Acts 2:38, Peter does not even mention “faith.” And he is answering those people who asked him what they should do to be saved!! All he said was repent and be baptized. Doesn’t mention faith! So, if your argument is that baptism can’t be necessary to salvation because John does not mention it in his verses on faith, then I can prove that faith is not necessary to salvation because Peter does not include it in his answer to the Peopje in Acts 2. That which proves too much, proves nothing! That is not proof of anything.

Jesus said in Luke 13:3 that if you don’t repent you will PERISH. He didn’t say if you don’t BELIEVE you will perish!! Therefore , by your logic, faith does not save you. All you have to do is “repent.” After all, faith is not mentioned in that verse. If it works that way in the book of John, then it works that way in the book of Luke. Couple Luke 13:3, (and Jesus even repeats it in verse 5) with Peter’s answer in Acts 2:38 and I can conclusively say that all you have to do to be saved is repent!! You don’t have to believe because neither Jesus nor Peter mentioned faith as being necessary to salvation. Would you agree to that? It’s right there, in the Bible!

That is no different than what you do in trying to prove that baptism is not necessary for salvation. You use verses in John to prove that baptism is not necessary, I used verses in Luke and Acts to prove that FAITH is not necessary.

You and I both know that is not handling the word of God honestly.

 

[Mouse_Cheeks]

The idea of baptism in three names is false.

Otherwise, Jesus made a mistake when he said you are to be baptized in the name of Jesus.

The erroneous passage and misrepresented for centuries says, baptize in the name of...
Singular.

What is the name of the Father?Who is Holy and Spirit. And Savior?

Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior. Isaiah 43:10-11

John 4:24 God is Spirit, and His worshipers must worship Him in spirit and in truth.

1 Samuel 2:2 There is none holy like the Lord: for there is none besides you; there is no rock like our God.

Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”