Woman position ( 1 Corinthians 14:34-37)

[tourist]

Look, softy, just because your wife wears the pants in your family and you don't have the balls God gave a mouse, does not mean all men are afraid to speak truth. Some people actually think about how to fix the disobedience problem- NOT on how to lay down and continue in emasculation- as you so willingly display. Weak? Hardly. Someone needs to adress the unruliness...

This resident is not married. You don't know this guy very well or otherwise you would not have wrote the nonsense that you did.

What disobedience problem are you referring to?

 

[Elin]

Actually, women aren't "prone to that." Studies have shown that men and women engage in about the same about of words usage per day (about 16k words). Studies have also shown that men are more likely to speak out in larger groups than women are.

Additionally, your verses addressed married women. Is it therefore okay for a single woman to have leadership as
this won't embarrass or hurt the ego of her non-existant husband?

Actually, the proscription is not based on the ego of the husband, but on God's creation order of the man before the woman and the woman from the man.

 

[BarlyGurl]

Shocking that these people are blind to the fact that WE are the Church and our bodies the Temple, with the Holy Spirit indwelling us. The building is just a building.

What you say is true, THUS, just as God prescribed ordinances for governing order in the OT temple, we are given ordinances governing order for our own temple as a member of the body (the church). This provides for how we are specifically instructed to inspect/judge ourselves against the light of the WORD. Without it there is no order and each does according to their our way... we are supposed to follow HIS way.

 

[DisciplePAG]

He's been here before, different SN.........and after he is gone, he'll come back again.......different SN

I came here ONCE. Asked a question ONCE. Lost the login info- and this site returns emails about like you run your house in a subjective biblical manner - doesnt really happen. So quit running your mouth about when i will come and go- im going to be a truthful voice in your weak consciousness for a while- in the meantime why dont you seek some professional help for emasculation- your OBVIOUSLY suffering from a serious case of it....

 

[Elin]

Reality check. My husband has Alzheimer's we are in financial difficulty because he failed to make good decisions so am I to continue to let him make financial decisions?

I think you know the answer to that.

 

[psalm6819]

Look, softy, just because your wife wears the pants in your family and you don't have the balls God gave a mouse, does not mean all men are afraid to speak truth. Some people actually think about how to fix the disobedience problem- NOT on how to lay down and continue in emasculation- as you so willingly display. Weak? Hardly. Someone needs to adress the unruliness...

Are you a Christian?

 

[Utah]

Look, softy, just because your wife wears the pants in your family and you don't have the balls God gave a mouse, does not mean all men are afraid to speak truth. Some people actually think about how to fix the disobedience problem- NOT on how to lay down and continue in emasculation- as you so willingly display. Weak? Hardly. Someone needs to adress the unruliness...

Okay, now that I'm done laughing at your first sentence, the truth is it has no room on a Christian chat site. And I sincerely apologize for any hypocrisy on my part because I definitely push the envelope myself around here.

 

[psalm6819]

I think you know the answer to that.

My answer is I will take care of him because I love him and still respect him for what and who he is but I just wondered what others would say.

 

[Elin]

He is not in a coma but before I listen ANYMORE to anyone telling me to submit I wantthem to answer my question should I be what most on this thread consider "biblically correct" and let him leave us without a home?

No, you should not, nor should you submit to him in a drunken state or psychotic state, anymore than you should submit to him for sin.

Scripture is regarding those of sound mind, not for toddlers, or the mentally impaired.

 

[DisciplePAG]

This is the mockery of a non-Biblical "Christian" posing as a believer and trying to use Scripture as a weapon against itself to confound believers in the Bible.

He tries to handle the Scriptures as he sees them handled by believers, being blind to failing so miserably and, depending on his various kinds of insobriety, he is even willing to blaspheme in his attempt to appear a Biblical Christian.

It's all a game with him now, and he is so foolish as to think believers can't see his unbelief, ignorance and mockery.

He's been here many times before under many different screen names, but always the same game. . .trying to separate believers from their faith in the word of God written.

He doesn't have a clue from which powerful source comes our faith in the Bible.

Your a liar. Post "many different" names ive used and examples of things ive done in the past? YOU CANT. So shut your lying mouth. God hates a lying tongue, you know that right?

 

[Elin]

it doesn't say unless he has alzheimer's

It doesn't have to.

It also doesn't say to require toddlers to come under its commands, exhortations, or admonishments.

Nor does it prove there is a God.

Both are assumed by the Scriptures.

 

[DisciplePAG]

Okay, now that I'm done laughing at your first sentence, the truth is it has no room on a Christian chat site. And I sincerely apologize for any hypocrisy on my part because I definitely push the envelope myself around here.

OHHHHhhh!?? So when one of the "newbies" gets ugly, it has no place here! But when one of the "in crowd" of ol' hats gets nasty, well lets just "like" it and join in!?? Take a hike!

...... practice what you preach before bringing that crap up in here hypocrite! It was kinda funny though...

 

[Elin]

Not only is it creepy, but it's based on a social model of family that is long, long gone. Oh, yeah, it's also based on the idea that women are property, too.

Nope. . .its' based on the word of God and his command to observe the creation order of man being the head of woman, as Christ is head of the church, both being the body of their bridegroom in the two-in-one enfleshment of the marital union, of which body the man is the head.

You either believe the word of God written. . .or you don't.

You have made evident where you stand.

 

[DisciplePAG]

Are you a Christian?

Are you? Get outta here- some of the crap you post is 10x more brash than what i post? Its funny how you jokers act all high and mighty in here! Laughable!! Calling yourself christians and your more lukewarm than my bathwater!

 

[psalm6819]

What was the discussion when you both first found out? Didn't he come up with a course of action of what he wanted you to do back then?

The disease takes over a person. We often have to differentiate between the person and the disease. Dad made plans before he had to. He made a living will. When he found out, he put my oldest brother in charge of making decisions for him when he was no longer able to do it for himself. I'm the one stuck with when to pull the plug, if it comes to that. That plan is still in effect despite the disease now spreading at such a rate, he's beyond knowing what's good for him or why my brother does what he does. (Why do you have my car? I want my car back. I'm doing great. What cops?)

I'm assuming your husband wanted you to help him. Taking care of him as long as you can, now means not listening to the disease. Listen to what he said when you knew it was him saying it. It's not easy, but you know you're doing the right thing for him, so, yes, you are submitting.

Thank you for your mind words, Tom has had 2 strokes so they were uncertain about diagnosis but yes he knew what was coming just didn't know how soon and what form it would take. The extreme anger was what pointed the doctors to Alzheimer's as opposed to stroke damage. Actually it has progressed much more slowly than they predicted. he still knows people but has trouble remembering things like shut off the water or feeds the cats eight cans of catfood in a couple hours, fat and happy cats and Tom doesn't seem to have the depression and anxiety associated with it.

We'll make it, God is faithful.

 

[Utah]

OHHHHhhh!?? So when one of the "newbies" gets ugly, it has no place here! But when one of the "in crowd" of ol' hats gets nasty, well lets just "like" it and join in!?? Take a hike!

...... practice what you preach before bringing that crap up in here hypocrite! It was kinda funny though...

Lol. Like Jack Nicholson said, "You can't handle the truth." You're foulness is only eclipsed by your immaturity. Its your future, I see, I see, no wait, yes, you're banned! Lol.

 

[psalm6819]

Are you? Get outta here- some of the crap you post is 10x more brash than what i post? Its funny how you jokers act all high and mighty in here! Laughable!! Calling yourself christians and your more lukewarm than my bathwater!

The fact that I do not hammer people with the law and condemnation doesn't mean I'm lukewarm, it means I let the Holy Spirit and the law so it's work.

 

[blondieindahouse]

James 5:9
Do not complain, brethren, against one another, so that you yourselves may not be judged; behold, the Judge is standing right at the door.

 

[Elin]

It all seems very logical and simple to me!
When Galatians 3:28 says “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” this means there has to be some other reason for Paul to say that the women must keep silence in the church…and I believe it is cultural, historical and specific.

Actually, Paul is quite clear that it is not cultural, but it is historical in that it goes all the way back to God's creation order at the very beginning, where man was made first, and woman was made from man.

It is not for man to overturn God's word written nor the order he established between man and woman in marriage and in the church/assembly.

 

[oldhermit]

Jesus said to love my neighbor as myself. I intend to do that. I don't want anybody telling me not to talk in church, so I will not tell anybody not to talk in church.

"If you love ME, you will keep MY commandments."