Is your church condemned?

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Magenta

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Is your church condemned?
No. Jesus gave His life that we might be saved, and there is now no condemnation
for those who are in Him, having accepted His propitiatory sacrifice on their behalf.
 

AllenW

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there's that word again......sigh...... :)

Honestly, you are not the only one........I think I've seen it three other times today here on CC.

Why do I mention it? It is at least a gross overstatement that presents a mistaken image of the Church in my opinion.

There are an untold number of churches in the world today. Given that, there is no way any person could have possibly visited "most" of them to determine what spiritual state they are in. It would not be humanly possible to do so. Because of this, if I or you, or anyone makes the statement "most churches," we are doing so in error, for we can not say with any truth what "most churches" are or are not.

Not picking on you......because I do agree that SOME churches I know of no longer preach the Gospel.......just saying....... :) I've caught myself doing it too, and had to do a quick edit to correct it.

God bless
I can't stand it when people say most churches.
I guess to them, they feel it gives them some kind of authority.
Am I that bad too?
Oh my!
 
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I can't stand it when people say most churches.
I guess to them, they feel it gives them some kind of authority.
Am I that bad too?
Oh my!
If there was any denominational church that was teaching the truth it would be a shining witness, and most all people would shun it. If the truth was taught in any church the people would stop attending that church.
People don’t want to live God’s Word, and they don’t want to hear that they need to live God’s Word.
 
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No. Jesus gave His life that we might be saved, and there is now no condemnation
for those who are in Him, having accepted His propitiatory sacrifice on their behalf.
(removed for insult) How people can believe it took God six hundred years to bring the true message to people is beyond me. Calvin sure found a way to get people to follow him.
You need to ignore most of the New Testament to believe what you just posted.
 
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Blain

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What a garbage theology that is. How people can believe it took God six hundred years to bring the true message to people is beyond me. Calvin sure found a way to get people to follow him.
You need to ignore most of the New Testament to believe what you just posted.
(removed ) The story of salvation begins and ends with jesus, from the beginning even from the creation of the world God the ultimate weaver weaved a story of love of pain and sadness but also one of salvation he sees the story from the beginning to the end and he saw it fit to have Jesus come and do what he did exactly when he did in his eyes the timing was perfect.

jesus came when he did he went though all of that and died for all of us instead of pointing the finger he said to love instead of throwing the stone he said take the plank out of your own eye we are no longer called to judge or point fingers nor are we to attack or to speak harshly and unkindly jesus made a new way he is the new way and if this is garbage to you then you are not a Christian.

And even if your a Christian your no prophet either, I haven't met many true prophets but I have met a few you sir show no fruit of one at all. I have met many like you those who take the title of a prophet even in their own minds have themselves convinced they are prophets but all that comes from their mouths are anything but love anything but God's heart.
A prophet is not to condemn or to attack and they don't speak like you do they like Jesus are the fathers voice his lips they speak in love their words give life they make that spark and ignite that flame in ppls hearts they don't consider themselves any more than anyone else they are humble in their hearts and their ways they speak their hearts and God is the words that comes from it and I can't see a prophet coming out saying they are one if anything they have no need to because others will see it in them.

a prophet is a very dangerous thing to claim to be because a prophet while not any more important than any one else in his kingdom is held more accountable for saying they speak for God. are you sure you willing to accept what may come from saying you are his voice? Will you accept the cost of being a false prophet? You can fool some people you can even fool yourself but I am afraid you cannot fool me I can tell the difference between A Christian by title and a Christian by heart just as I can tell the difference between a false prophet and a true prophet of God
 
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Magenta

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What a garbage theology that is. How people can believe it took God six hundred years to bring the true message to people is beyond me. Calvin sure found a way to get people to follow him.
You need to ignore most of the New Testament to believe what you just posted.
That is Scripture you just denounced. Six hundred years? You spout nonsense.
 
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John if this is garbage to you then you are no christian let alone a prophet. The story of salvation begins and ends with jesus, from the beginning even from the creation of the world God the ultimate weaver weaved a story of love of pain and sadness but also one of salvation he sees the story from the beginning to the end and he saw it fit to have Jesus come and do what he did exactly when he did in his eyes the timing was perfect.

jesus came when he did he went though all of that and died for all of us instead of pointing the finger he said to love instead of throwing the stone he said take the plank out of your own eye we are no longer called to judge or point fingers nor are we to attack or to speak harshly and unkindly jesus made a new way he is the new way and if this is garbage to you then you are not a Christian.

And even if your a Christian your no prophet either, I haven't met many true prophets but I have met a few you sir show no fruit of one at all. I have met many like you those who take the title of a prophet even in their own minds have themselves convinced they are prophets but all that comes from their mouths are anything but love anything but God's heart.
A prophet is not to condemn or to attack and they don't speak like you do they like Jesus are the fathers voice his lips they speak in love their words give life they make that spark and ignite that flame in ppls hearts they don't consider themselves any more than anyone else they are humble in their hearts and their ways they speak their hearts and God is the words that comes from it and I can't see a prophet coming out saying they are one if anything they have no need to because others will see it in them.

a prophet is a very dangerous thing to claim to be because a prophet while not any more important than any one else in his kingdom is held more accountable for saying they speak for God. are you sure you willing to accept what may come from saying you are his voice? Will you accept the cost of being a false prophet? You can fool some people you can even fool yourself but I am afraid you cannot fool me I can tell the difference between A Christian by title and a Christian by heart just as I can tell the difference between a false prophet and a true prophet of God

He is not going to forgive sins for those who don’t keep his Word. Those people will be condemned by the words Jesus spoke. Your theology is garbage, taught by someone sixteen hundred years after Jesus, and people believe that lie because they did not want to keep God’s Word. How dumb those people were to think it took God that many years to bring the truth to them.


(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already: the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”
 
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That is Scripture you just denounced. Six hundred years? You spout nonsense.
You have no scripture that confirms what you believe. All you have is a man’s teachings that have told you what you want to believe.
 

Magenta

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You have no scripture that confirms what you believe. All you have is a man’s teachings that have told you what you want to believe.
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8:1-2 Proving you wrong, and a liar.
 
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Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8:1-2 Proving you wrong, and a liar.

Yes and if you knew what it meant to be in Jesus Christ, just who it is that is in Jesus then you would know how wrong you are. Read what it means to be in Jesus Christ.


(1 John 2:6) “But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did”


Saying Lord, Lord does not mean one is in Jesus Christ one has to obey God’s Commandment as Jesus did.
 

hornetguy

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Romans 8New Living Translation (NLT)[h=3]Life in the Spirit[/h]8 So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And because you belong to him, the power[SUP][a][/SUP] of the life-giving Spirit has freed you[SUP][b][/SUP] from the power of sin that leads to death. [SUP]3 [/SUP]The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature.[SUP][c][/SUP] So God did what the law could not do. He sent his own Son in a body like the bodies we sinners have. And in that body God declared an end to sin’s control over us by giving his Son as a sacrifice for our sins. [SUP]4 [/SUP]He did this so that the just requirement of the law would be fully satisfied for us, who no longer follow our sinful nature but instead follow the Spirit.
No scripture that says that? Troll. Obvious, and on top of that, you are calling the words of God a lie....
 
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No scripture that says that? Troll. Obvious, and on top of that, you are calling the words of God a lie....
Jesus also told us who it is he loved, and if one belongs to him they would have heard his voice, because Jesus said he would call his own out by name, and they would follow no other.

So your different translation does not get you around what that scripture truly says. One has to be in Jesus Christ is the true translation is it not?

(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”

(John 10:1-5)"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice."
 

hornetguy

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I think it's very obvious this person is a troll. I'm out of this thread. Too many scriptures tell us to not get involved in foolish discussions, and this one is a total waste of time.
 

santuzza

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it's right here; let me help.

You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
(Romans 2:1)

Thank you, Posthuman, you nailed it for me!
 

posthuman

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If you have truth use scripture to confirm it. Your opinion only means something to you.
so give us scripture that confirms that no church on earth teaches the truth, but that you alone possess it.
 

posthuman

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Your theology is garbage, taught by someone sixteen hundred years after Jesus

actually i rather think this was written much earlier . .

If we are faithless, He remains faithful,
for He cannot deny Himself.

(2 Timothy 2:13)​

& though you may consider it "garbage" -- to us it is the power of God.