Is your church condemned?
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(Galatians 1:7-8) “Not that there can be more than one Good News; it is merely that some troublemakers among you want to change the Good News of Christ; and let me warn you that if anyone preaches a version of the Good News different from the one you have already heard, he is to be condemned.”
If any church teaches a different gospel than what Jesus/Apostles taught it is condemned, and no church teaches all of the following scripture. All Churches teach a different gospel.
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”
Do you know of a church that teaches that a Christian can’t sin?
(Matthew 5:48) “Even the pagans do as much, do they not? You must therefore be perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect.”
(Matthew 5:39) “You have learnt how it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I say this to you: offer the wicked man no resistance.”
(1 John 2:6) “But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did”
(Luke 14:33) “So in the same way, none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up all his possessions.”
(Matthew 5:39) “You have learnt how it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I say this to you: offer the wicked man no resistance.”
(Matthew 23:8-9) “You, however must not allow yourselves to be called Rabbi, since you have only one Master, and you are all brothers. You must call no one on earth your father, since you have only one Father, and he is in heaven.”
Thank me I did what you asked, but the above scripture is not, but it is enough to prove my point.
If any church teaches a different gospel than what Jesus/Apostles taught it is condemned, and no church teaches all of the following scripture. All Churches teach a different gospel.
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”
Do you know of a church that teaches that a Christian can’t sin?
(Matthew 5:48) “Even the pagans do as much, do they not? You must therefore be perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect.”
(Matthew 5:39) “You have learnt how it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I say this to you: offer the wicked man no resistance.”
(1 John 2:6) “But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did”
(Luke 14:33) “So in the same way, none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up all his possessions.”
(Matthew 5:39) “You have learnt how it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I say this to you: offer the wicked man no resistance.”
(Matthew 23:8-9) “You, however must not allow yourselves to be called Rabbi, since you have only one Master, and you are all brothers. You must call no one on earth your father, since you have only one Father, and he is in heaven.”
Thank me I did what you asked, but the above scripture is not, but it is enough to prove my point.
no you didn't.
hundreds of thousands of churches proclaim all those scriptures that you posted, and none of those scriptures say that no church teaches the truth, neither do any of those passages say that you alone have the truth.
you kinda just verified that you are only giving your opinion, and that your opinion isn't supported by scripture.
but try again? or don't. i kinda lean toward: you shouldn't even try to support that -- because i think you'd just be misusing the sword, and when a person misuses a sword, they often wind up injuring themselves.
((saying that in love))
maybe lol
hey btw
i can't remember what Ephesians 4 says -- did God give only one single apostle, the same being one prophet, one pastor, one teacher, one evangelist, and did He only call that one believer to edify and build up itself, being the only member of the body?
or did He call many people, and does His body have many members?
man if only my church taught the truth, i might know the answer
too bad for me i guess
hey btw
i can't remember what Ephesians 4 says -- did God give only one single apostle, the same being one prophet, one pastor, one teacher, one evangelist, and did He only call that one believer to edify and build up itself, being the only member of the body?
or did He call many people, and does His body have many members?
man if only my church taught the truth, i might know the answer
too bad for me i guess
no you didn't.
hundreds of thousands of churches proclaim all those scriptures that you posted, and none of those scriptures say that no church teaches the truth, neither do any of those passages say that you alone have the truth.
you kinda just verified that you are only giving your opinion, and that your opinion isn't supported by scripture.
but try again? or don't. i kinda lean toward: you shouldn't even try to support that -- because i think you'd just be misusing the sword, and when a person misuses a sword, they often wind up injuring themselves.
((saying that in love))
E
maybe lol
hey btw
i can't remember what Ephesians 4 says -- did God give only one single apostle, the same being one prophet, one pastor, one teacher, one evangelist, and did He only call that one believer to edify and build up itself, being the only member of the body?
or did He call many people, and does His body have many members?
man if only my church taught the truth, i might know the answer
too bad for me i guess
hey btw
i can't remember what Ephesians 4 says -- did God give only one single apostle, the same being one prophet, one pastor, one teacher, one evangelist, and did He only call that one believer to edify and build up itself, being the only member of the body?
or did He call many people, and does His body have many members?
man if only my church taught the truth, i might know the answer
too bad for me i guess
I know I got at least one of them
you?
J
huge things in this all is the grace commands. forgive and you will be forgiven, condemn not, you will not be condemned, judge not lest ye be judged, by the measure you use, it will be measured to you ect.....on the basis of the grace and mercy that is throughtout Jesus teachings. needs to be said that obedience to Jesus provides Grace and forgiveness. the obedience of Law is different. an adulterer for instance is stoned, sin not, or die is the laws obedience.
Jesus teachings themselves provide all the grace we need. difference is we obey Jesus, the man full of Grace and truth. and its important for the "teacher" to live up to the things a person who is a "teacher" is teaching though there is only one true teacher. The Christ, through the spirit given by Faith. the spirit does indeed speak through others, to each other, for mutual edification. a "prophet" has no authority over another believer, that's important to realize. not old testament prophets they are Gone, now like all things, the spirit is throughout the body of Christ as a whole, no one above the other. a servant, a secratery, an encourager, a prophet, a healer ect......all these things are given to the body not to glorify or raise one up. they are all for the purpose of the raising up of the body of Christ on earth and the glorification of God through the name of Jesus His Son.
the greatest in the Kingdom of God, is the meekest, the un noticed, the one able to restrain himself, his words ( which is my current struggle) the ones living a good example are the best examples to follow. I'm convinced that everything lives in the Gospel, all wisdom in His words, all truth, all discernment. they are not limited to a person, but available to every believer that seeks Him out. the word was with God, was God. so what are Jesus words but spirit and life to all who believe THEM.
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There are 350,000 local churches in the US.
How many have you visited? How many?
It is obvious you have never been to the church I serve as pastor here in the Boston mountains of Arkansas.
You remind me of others on this forum that condemn local churches that you have no idea what they teach and practice.
That makes you a liar.
How many have you visited? How many?
It is obvious you have never been to the church I serve as pastor here in the Boston mountains of Arkansas.
You remind me of others on this forum that condemn local churches that you have no idea what they teach and practice.
That makes you a liar.
J
are you claiming old testament prophet here? or to share in the holy spirit as a prophet gifted of Jesus? there is a giant difference. one makes you a heretic and need to repent. not an accusation I seem to be missing something. are you an authority or special prophet? honestly asking you to clarify
Is that so? Tell me do you tell people that a Christian does not sin? Do you tell your people that it is a sin to fight in one’s countries army? Do you tell your people that (Luke 14:33) “So in the same way, none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up all his possessions.”
Do I need to keep going?
By the way my thread asked the question if one’s church is condemned. Also I qualified my statement about churches as Denominational Churches. I know what the denominational churches teach.
Do I need to keep going?
By the way my thread asked the question if one’s church is condemned. Also I qualified my statement about churches as Denominational Churches. I know what the denominational churches teach.
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