Why does God allow false Christians in our mist?

[seed_time_harvest]

Why does He allow them to deceive us with their false Doctrines? What is God's purpose in allowing False Prophets to exist?

Matthew 13:24-29
King James Version(KJUV)

24.) Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

25.) But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26.) But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27.) So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28.) He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29.) But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

 

[oldethennew]

Christ allows us to be who we THINK we are in the world, but our true identity is in HIM...
for us to learn that Christ dwells within us, He has to show us the darkness that dwells in false brethren..,

it's a matter of discerning Light from darkness...good or evil,,. the evil dwells here, and we cannot
be deceived by it, lest we become part of it!!!

as it is written, 'Walk in the Light as He is The Light'...

 

[DP]

Why does He allow them to deceive us with their false Doctrines? What is God's purpose in allowing False Prophets to exist?

The true believer is supposed to learn the answer to that beginning in Old Testament Book study. It's the subject Apostle Paul was talking about in 2 Thess.2 with the "mystery of iniquity", and what Apostle John was talking about with the idea of "many antichrists" already at work, and per our Lord's parable of the tares of the field of Matt.13, and per the crept in unawares of Jude 1 that were ordained to the condemnation of working against Christ.

See Judges 2 & 3 where God rebuked Israel for not obeying Him in destroying all the Canaanites, so He said He would leave them among Israel to test His people with. That testing applies just as much today as it did then, also to Christ's Church, which is why we are admonished so much in the NT writings to not let any man deceive us.

I've tried over and over to show brethren that have yet to really ask our Heavenly Father through His Son, that if they really ask Him for understanding in His Holy Writ line upon line, and discipline their self in it, not relying of men's doctrines, that He will... show them according to their Faith and sincerity. Only then, through Him by The Holy Spirit will those know how to recognize His Word vs. men's doctrines that the hirelings devise.

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

Why does He allow them to deceive us with their false Doctrines? What is God's purpose in allowing False Prophets to exist?

Jeremiah 23:21-32
I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
22But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.
23Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?
24Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.
25I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed. 26How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart; 27Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal. 28The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD. 29Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces? 30Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbour. 31Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith. 32Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Why does God allow false Christians in our mist?

But, as to your original question, have you had a problem with false Christians hiding behind house plants?

(Sorry... it's like why they climb Everest, because it's there...)

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

Shows word stealers like father like sons

Mark 4:14 The sower soweth the word.

Mark 4:14 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard,

Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Even as it says,

John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal

Shows stealing his words here as well

Jerm 23:30 Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets,
saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.

The full verse

John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:
I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Jerm 23:30 is in context of wheat and chaff speaking either his word or their own dreams.

God speaks and the Satan or his crew come in, its been that way from the beginning, standing before the woman ready to snatch away.

 

[p_rehbein]

Hmm......."false Christians"......hmm, can there be such a thing?

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

Hmm......."false Christians"......hmm, can there be such a thing?

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Paul calls them false brethren, that might be more rightly said
Gal 2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

 

[Depleted]

so this would be one that has their own opinions and not share the same opinions as the group?

IDK. I'm very opinionated so don't hang around people who aren't to have any way of judging that they aren't. Kind of like asking me for an opinion of Manchester United's playing style. I've heard of them. I know they play soccer (aka football.) I hear they're good. But I don't know enough about soccer to know how or why they are good. Or, for that matter, even if they really are good.

 

[posthuman]

Why does God allow false Christians in our mist?

But, as to your original question, have you had a problem with false Christians hiding behind house plants?

(Sorry... it's like why they climb Everest, because it's there...)

gorillas!!



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nothing in the Bible says misspelling is a sin tho, right?



don't get upset. i'm just entertaining someone else. it's paid for -- totally not at your expense.

 

[jaybird88]

IDK. I'm very opinionated so don't hang around people who aren't to have any way of judging that they aren't. Kind of like asking me for an opinion of Manchester United's playing style. I've heard of them. I know they play soccer (aka football.) I hear they're good. But I don't know enough about soccer to know how or why they are good. Or, for that matter, even if they really are good.

why does it have to be man U. why does everyone go to the EPL when they want a football example!? why not AC Milan or Fiorentina? you think EPL is better than Serie A?

 

[Depleted]

Maybe "tares" are in our midst to keep us on our toes? They can be "thorns in our flesh" but can bring out these qualities - And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation works patience; and patience, experience; and experience, hope: and hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the holy Spirit which is given unto us. - for our growth and maturity.

As for "truth" - there can only be ONE ABSOLUTE TRUTH - yet we see so many differences . . . how do you (or me) know we have the ABSOLUTE TRUTH on any given subject? I know - the holy Spirit will guide us unto all truth - we all supposedly have the gift of holy Spirit . . . yet we all can't be right. Yes, some are babes . . . some mature . . . still there are disputations among the mature! Hmm . . . I guess some things can't be answered so simply.

Absolute truth. I'm left-handed but right-eyed. (I'm cock-eyed, so only look out of one eye at a time.)

Translation: The only things I have absolute truth with are dinky little aspects of me. The rest is educated guesses, (which is usually something I read or someone told me, but I trust the source... although could be wrong anyway), just-plain guesses, or I dunno. But, yeah. I have a little it of absolute truth in stuff I know.

 

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Avalanche? As in unrelated-to-an-earthquake avalanche?

 

[JesusIsAll]

nothing in the Bible says misspelling is a sin tho, right?

'Spect not, less'n ah midst sumpin', mercy!

 

[resurrection33]

Didnt you have a similar thread to this one taken down?

I had responded and a couple of responses after that it was gone, I just wasnt sure if it was the topic itself that was the problem or that you requested it to be deleted but it seemed to be somewhat in line with this one but I never asked the reason for it.

I am not aware that I had one taken down, though I started several threads the other day and am not positive they are all still there.

 

[Depleted]

Why does God allow false Christians in our mist?

But, as to your original question, have you had a problem with false Christians hiding behind house plants?

(Sorry... it's like why they climb Everest, because it's there...)

House plants are on Mt. Everest?

I got to get those houseplants! They might survive my house!

 

[Depleted]

gorillas!!



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nothing in the Bible says misspelling is a sin tho, right?



don't get upset. i'm just entertaining someone else. it's paid for -- totally not at your expense.

And that's why I stink at grammar. Didn't even notice.

 

[presidente]

In some cases, it may be because Christians allow the false teachers in their midst. Christ corrected one of the churches in the book of Revelation for tolerating a group of false teachers.

 

[JesusIsAll]

House plants are on Mt. Everest?

I got to get those houseplants! They might survive my house!

There was absolutely no connection between the house plants and Everest, rather the title was just there. Now, go back to sleep, lest you have another such idea in your midst! (One can neither get by with sound doctrine or a joke around here...)

 

[Depleted]

why does it have to be man U. why does everyone go to the EPL when they want a football example!? why not AC Milan or Fiorentina? you think EPL is better than Serie A?

That's bad. I googled EPL and still don't know what it means.