Is your church condemned?

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

For those in the U.S., what percentage of churches in America do you believe are Sola Scriptura (100% Biblically Accurate)?

How many of you attend a church that teaches any of these doctrine?

-Pre-Trib Rapture (Christians will be saved before/from the Great Tribulation) = LIE - Does NOT comply with Scripture

-Eternal Security (Salvation cannot be lost) = LIE - Does NOT comply with Scripture

-Sunday Worship = LIE - Does NOT comply with Scripture

-Acceptance of Alcohol = LIE - Does NOT comply with Scripture

-Anyone can be saved simply by believing in Jesus and His death and resurrection for our sins = LIE - Does NOT comply with Scripture (Even the demons believe this)

-Observation of most mainstream Holidays = LIE - Does NOT comply with Scripture (Pagan origin for most)

-Nobody is 'Appointed' for hell/damnation by Almighty God = LIE - Does NOT comply with Scripture

-All Old Testament Law is expired/no longer applicable = LIE - Does NOT comply with Scripture

There are many more that most modern mainstream churches teach/preach, but if any of your churches teach even 'ONE' of these concepts, they are NOT Sola Scriptura and, yep, they're probably largely condemned.



God Bless

 

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

Is it your assumption that MOST Christians will be meeting up in Heaven? = LIE - Could not be more contrary to God's Word.

For the record, when The Holy Ghost has come upon someone, the first thing it begins to do through that person is to 'Judge' the world.

(John 16:8) And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:...

That's right. That's what Jesus did immediately after His baptism in His interactions with satan and what he continued to do in public to the Pharisees and Sadducees. They absolutely HATED Him for it and tried over and over again to trip Him up and eventually had Him killed for it. They also continued to sabotage His message even after His death and resurrection by sending False Brethren/Pharisees/Judaizers to falsely accuse Paul to the crowds all throughout his travels in the book of Acts.

These were considered to be the 'Most Holy' people of their time. (Very significant.)

When the Holy Spirit came upon Samson, that was the beginning of his onslaught of the unjust and unrighteous.

(Judges 14:6) And the Spirit of The Lord came mightily upon him, and he tore the lion apart as one would have torn apart a young goat, though he had nothing in his hand.

(Judges 15:14-15) Then the Spirit of The Lord came mightily upon him; and the ropes that were on his arms became like flax that is burned with fire, and his bonds broke loose from his hands. He found a fresh jawbone of a donkey, reached out his hand and took it, and killed a thousand men with it.

and Othniel:

(Judges 3:10) The Spirit of The Lord came upon him, and he judged Israel.

The Holy Spirit causes True Believers to be incapable of resisting the urge to point out to the world all of its wrongs and its lack of alignment with God's Word.

(John 16:13) ....when He, the Spirit of Truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak;...

Sorry for all those who are viciously attacking John, here, in disbelief that he's been gifted with the Holy Spirit.

(John 14:16-17) And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever -- the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him for He dwells with you and will be in you.

So much for most Christians going to Heaven.

Just like in Jesus' time, some of you are well aware of these truths and are here solely to silence Truth; some of you are simply ignorant of these facts and need to become aware of these things; still others will always be blind to Truth and will continue to rage against God's Holy Word whenever you encounter it because it convicts you in your soul and threatens everything about the way you live, the beliefs of those you interact with regularly and the doctrine of your church, etc.

Regardless, Truth IS Truth and it always hurts those that fight it the most.



God Bless

 

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

I hesitate to use the old adage about "giving someone his due," but, one thing is for sure......this person has managed to do what few others have (in my opinion). He has UNITED the members here on CC. I mean, how often do you see that?

Actually, you see it every single time somebody posts Scriptural Truth on this Forum.

The majority of the replies unite 'against' them.

This is nothing new; neither on this Forum, nor in the history of the world.


God Bless

 

[posthuman]

Actually, you see it every single time somebody posts Scriptural Truth on this Forum.

The majority of the replies unite 'against' them.

i don't think this is true at all.
let's test it scientifically & do an experiment -- here's some scriptural truth:

when we are faithless, He is faithful
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now let's watch and see if everyone unites against me
one instance in which your proposition does not hold will disprove it.

 

[RobbyEarl]

When the truth is given it gives unity

 

[posthuman]

Actually, you see it every single time somebody posts Scriptural Truth on this Forum.

The majority of the replies unite 'against' them.

here, not being satisfied with mere opinion, neither yours nor my own, i'm conducting a rigorous scientific experiment to test if what you propose is true or not.

have a look --

"scriptural truth" : an experiment

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[B1Davanda]

When the truth is given it gives unity

It SHOULD bring unity among true believers.

Often the Word causes division, but the goal is that we all be brought into the unity of the faith, and our Lord Jesus' great prayer before going to the cross for us was that we all be one.

Amazing that He wants us to be one,
made it as easy as possible...
simply by faith in Him...
then went to the cross
to purchase our common salvation
and give us the gift,
and we've spent the last 2000 years
finding ways to divide and separate.
We must be nuts.

 

[AVoiceintheWilderness]

Today's churches lack the all important 'Inspired Word of God'.

I'd say about 98% of churches in the U.S. are not scriptural at all in their teaching. Here's one way to tell.

For those who listen to Christian Radio or watch Christian TV programs, have you ever noticed how often the message for the week coincides with the same message they're preaching at your local church for that week?

I understand that makes people feel very 'connected' with the Christians across the nation, but did you ever realize that the only way this is possible is if the vast majority of Christian programs and churches are getting their weekly agendas from a single source?

Whatever person or organization that may be, it certainly isn't God.

I used to pay a lot of attention to all three (radio, TV, local church) and began to wonder why the message was so often the same. At first, it seemed right. It felt good to know that all Christians across the nation were learning, and being reminded of, the same concepts at the same time. Then I began to think about it and realized that it actually doesn't make sense at all.

A pastor/minister is supposed to formulate 'his' weekly sermon via Divine inspiration during the week prior. That's why it is said that they are to preach the 'Inspired' Word. Only God knows what each church, or specific individuals within that church, need to hear at any given time. Churches should always have a unique message custom-tailored for their specific congregation each week. This is only possible through God's Divine inspiration upon their local pastor.

If we are receiving a generic, cookie-cutter message from our local church that coincides with the message of radio/TV programs, we can rest assured that it is not coming from God.

The biggest problem here is that, in recent decades, Seminaries have all changed the way they teach our future pastors/ministers. The average church, as well as Seminary school,....

.....neglects the Creator of mankind and His inspired word. If the Bible happens to be considered at all, it is nearly always handled in a very incomplete or even derisive manner. A major problem is that most churchgoers—and even most ministers—do not take the Bible literally. The theological seminaries—or theological cemeteries as they probably ought to be called—have been infusing their young students for many decades with concepts originally derived from German-led “higher criticism.” Students are continually bombarded with the idea that a genuine, personal God of power and righteousness probably does not even exist, and that the Bible itself was assembled over many centuries by divided and confused men without the infallible guidance of a Creator. Obviously, they say, the “miracles” of Jesus and other servants of God were meant as metaphors or “teaching tools” to somehow describe God’s love and mercy—if this nebulous God even exists as a Divine Personality at all!

These students, robbed of their former simple faith, go on to teach their congregations. So it is no surprise that the average churchgoer in America, Canada, Britain and Australia is almost totally ignorant of the Bible and what it actually says.

Why Don't Most Churches Preach the Truth? | Tomorrow's World

If you happen to notice your church teaching concepts that coincide with the same concepts being broadcast across the nation at that time, or across the world for that matter, you should at least take notice, pray and possibly ask questions.

The only way possible for us to really get to know God, one on one, in these modern times, is to pray for His guidance and read our Bible as often as we possibly can.

There just is 'NO' substitute. And to rely on 'man' to teach us the deep truths of God's Word in this day and age is not only a complete waste of time, but it can very seriously damage our ability to ever understand God's Truth.

As Paul instructed Timothy about the importance of God's 'written' Word:

(Timothy 4:3-4) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

And God's warning for us in modern times.

(Hosea 4:6) (God speaking) My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge.




God Bless

 

[fredoheaven]

This is nothing new; neither on this Forum, nor in the history of the world.


God Bless

Very well said on this but I am expecting truths in your posts and the only truth that i see in your posts as of this time is "nothing new" about the truth. The rest is history.The scripture of truth is

Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Ecclesiastes 1:10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

 

[posthuman]

-Anyone can be saved simply by believing in Jesus and His death and resurrection for our sins = LIE - Does NOT comply with Scripture (Even the demons believe this)

i find this comment interesting.

You believe that God is one; you do well. The demons also believe —  and they shudder.
(James 2:19)
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does this say that the demons believe in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus for their sins, and His resurrection for their eternal life, and that whoever believes on Him will be saved ?

or does it just say that the demons believe there is no other God .. ?

In the synagogue there was a man possessed by a demon, an impure spirit. He cried out at the top of his voice, “Go away! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are — the Holy One of God!”
“Be quiet!” Jesus said sternly. “Come out of him!”
Then the demon threw the man down before them all and came out without injuring him.
(Luke 4:33-35)
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When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way.
“What do you want with us, Son of God?” they shouted. “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?”
(Matthew 8:28-29)​

these demons seems to know what some people don't know - you do well if you do! - that Jesus is the Messiah, the Holy One, the Son of God - but they don't seem to comment on 'fiducia' - trusting, confident faith - and the knowledge they express of Christ's purpose doesn't go beyond the coming judgement, that has an appointed time ((which explains why James says "they shudder")). they don't comment on His purpose to seek out and save what is lost.

 

[Johnlove]

Scripture tells us that if one teaches a different gospel that what was taught by Jesus/Apostles he or she is condemned. The leaders in all the denominational churches teach a different gospel than what the Apostles taught. Therefor all those churches are condemned. The following scripture is some of what those churches are not teaching, and teach the opposite in in most cases.

Now it may be only those leaders of the churches are condemned, but so are all the people that live what they preach. There living the false gospel is preaching that gospel.

(Galatians 1:7-8) “Not that there can be more than one Good News; it is merely that some troublemakers among you want to change the Good News of Christ; and let me warn you that if anyone preaches a version of the Good News different from the one you have already heard, he is to be condemned.”

(Romans 8:1-4) “The reason, therefore, why those who are in Christ Jesus are not condemned, is that the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. God has done what the Law, because of our unspiritual nature, was unable to do. God dealt with sin by sending his own Son in a body as physical as any sinful body, and in that body God condemned sin he did this in order the Law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the spirit dictates.”

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”

(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”

(1 Corinthians 6:9-19) “You know perfectly well that people who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God: people of immoral lives, idolaters, adulterers, catamites, sodomites, thieves, usurers, drunkards, slanders and swindlers will never inherit the kingdom of God.”

(Matthew 5:39) “You have learnt how it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I say this to you: offer the wicked man no resistance.”

(Luke 14:33) “So in the same way, none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up all his possessions.”


(Matthew 6:19) “Do not store up treasures for yourselves on earth, where moths and woodworms destroy them and thieves can break in and steal.”

(Matthew 5:48) “Even the pagans do as much, do they not? You must therefore be perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

 

[Magenta]

I'd say about 98% of churches in the U.S. are not scriptural at all in their teaching. Here's one way to tell.

For those who listen to Christian Radio or watch Christian TV programs, have you ever noticed how often the message for the week coincides with the same message they're preaching at your local church for that week?

I understand that makes people feel very 'connected' with the Christians across the nation, but did you ever realize that the only way this is possible is if the vast majority of Christian programs and churches are getting their weekly agendas from a single source?

Whatever person or organization that may be, it certainly isn't God.

It is called the Christian calendar, otherwise known as "Liturgical Year."

 

[Johnlove]

It is called the Christian calendar, otherwise known as "Liturgical Year."

Yes and you can be sure it is structured in such a way that it will keep from teaching what the Apostles taught.

 

[Magenta]

Yes and you can be sure it is structured in such a way that it will keep from teaching what the Apostles taught.

The liturgical calendar is structured to follow key events in the life of Christ, as well as feast days which the Lord says are His own. Here is an image to give you a visual

 

[Johnlove]

The liturgical calendar is structured to follow key events in the life of Christ, as well as feast days which the Lord says are His own. Here is an image to give you a visual

Do any of those events include where Jesus spoke the following scripture?

(Luke 14:33) “So in the same way, none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up all his possessions.”
Pharisee
(Matthew 6:19) “Do not store up treasures for yourselves on earth, where moths and woodworms destroy them and thieves can break in and steal.”

(Luke 12:33) “Sell your possessions and give alms. Get yourselves purses that do not wear out, treasure that will not fail you, in Heaven where no thief can reach it and no moth destroy it. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”
(Matthew 5:48) “Even the pagans do as much, do they not? You must therefore be perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

(Matthew 5:39) “You have learnt how it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I say this to you: offer the wicked man no resistance.”

(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already: the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”

 

[Magenta]

Do any of those events include where Jesus spoke the following scripture?

(Luke 14:33) “So in the same way, none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up all his possessions.”
Pharisee
(Matthew 6:19) “Do not store up treasures for yourselves on earth, where moths and woodworms destroy them and thieves can break in and steal.”

(Luke 12:33) “Sell your possessions and give alms. Get yourselves purses that do not wear out, treasure that will not fail you, in Heaven where no thief can reach it and no moth destroy it. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”
(Matthew 5:48) “Even the pagans do as much, do they not? You must therefore be perfect just as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

(Matthew 5:39) “You have learnt how it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I say this to you: offer the wicked man no resistance.”

(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already: the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”

The church I attend does not follow the liturgical calendar per se, but, if any church that does follow the calendar, even loosely, as well as teaches from the gospels, I don't see how all those Scriptures could be overlooked. It seems you are hell bent on finding fault. To each their own. To hear you and the other poster to whom I originally responded on this point speak, you would think their was some evil plan afoot to keep the gospel out of churches because a calendar of key events is used as a template. Maybe this conversation should be in the conspiracy forum

 

[Johnlove]

The church I attend does not follow the liturgical calendar per se, but, if any church that does follow the calendar, even loosely, as well as teaches from the gospels, I don't see how all those Scriptures could be overlooked. It seems you are hell bent on finding fault. To each their own. To hear you and the other poster to whom I originally responded on this point speak, you would think their was some evil plan afoot to keep the gospel out of churches because a calendar of key events is used as a template. Maybe this conversation should be in the conspiracy forum

Finding fault? No just looking for an honest answer. You must know as everyone who has read my post that no church teaches what the apostles taught. Yet all I get is attacked for pointing out that God’s Word is not being taught as Jesus/Apostles taught it.

What a farce to pretend to be holy, and of God, when one is not even close to teaching one how to be an obedient Child of God.

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”

 

[Magenta]

Finding fault? No just looking for an honest answer. You must know as everyone who has read my post that no church teaches what the apostles taught. Yet all I get is attacked for pointing out that God’s Word is not being taught as Jesus/Apostles taught it.

What a farce to pretend to be holy, and of God, when one is not even close to teaching one how to be an obedient Child of God.

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”

I gave an honest answer and still you seek to find fault with it, and me, apparently. Maybe you should attend a Bible believing, Bible teaching church. That's what mine is, and it is wonderful

 

[BeyondET]

Finding fault? No just looking for an honest answer. You must know as everyone who has read my post that no church teaches what the apostles taught. Yet all I get is attacked for pointing out that God’s Word is not being taught as Jesus/Apostles taught it.

What a farce to pretend to be holy, and of God, when one is not even close to teaching one how to be an obedient Child of God.

(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”

do you love these churches 70 times over?

 

[Johnlove]

do you love these churches 70 times over?

NO! Not keeping God’s Word is a sin, and a sinner is of the devil. I do not love or forgive the devil. Also Jesus said forgive a brother who asks for forgiveness. The Churches are not asking for forgiveness, and don’t even admit they are disobeying God.

Also a sinner is disobeying God, and it is up to God if they are to be forgiven or loved.

By the way Jesus told us who it is he loves, and what one has to do to be loved by him. Sinning is not keeping God’s Commandments by the way.

(John 14: 23) “Anyone who loves me will keep my word and my Father will love him, and we shall come to him and make a home in him.”

(John 14:21) “Anybody who receives my commandments and keeps them will be one who loves me; and anybody who loves me will be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and show myself to him.”