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1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: 3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 14Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
 

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We are saved by grace...... But Christ is our example. He came to show us how to have dominion over sin. The same power that raised Him from the dead is the same power we have in us. By His power we can discipline the flesh. Yes I know, we don't always get it right.

But there is a distinct difference between a person who just said "I cant be perfect so I'm not going to make and effort to please Him more"
and someone who in addition to appreciating the grace of salvation spends their life aspiring to live in the example He displayed.

While we acknowledge that as humans we don't always do it right and He is faithful and just to forgive us; We are empowered to overcome, we really dont need to fight for our right to sin.
 
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Ok here my way to salvation…

I am a BIG sinner and I LOVE my life.

On one particular Sunday I go to church and the People sing the Lord’s Prayer. And my life flash before me….What a mess… Immedieately all I loved before is now DIRT. I feel all these people singing here is so holy, and I am so dirty… I was broken there, how could I be so stupid to do these things, man did I hate myself?

Then I wanted it changed! I wanted all this GONE!!! And so I started to go to church more regulary… Soon I was exactly like the others that were so holy, but it was actually not as holy as I thought. They still sinned. Now I was still dissappointed with myself, I still hate the sin in me…

But I have to be wrong, because we will always be sinners right? And Jesus did die for my sins, the past present and future sin…So I am OK!!! God forgives me every time I ask forgiveness. GOOD! I am glad I still hate the sin, because it proofs I am REBORN! YEAH I AM SAVED!!!!!

So let us see now, I should go and get more peole to come to Jesus… Man it is so EASY, just give your heart to JESUS, He will save the whole World…

So now I have to become like a deacon or something… So I became a deacon. And apperently the best one they ever had… but still I did not like myself, but I am ok the sin I now did I did not want to do, but I can ask God to forgive me…

I know I still lust after the women in the xxx movies and I am a weak man. I am hooked on this movies… But gladly after the movie I can ask forgiveness. It is now 14 years later and now I can really get into PORN on the internet… Man the stuff available by the other weak in the flesh DISPLAYING the firmness of their flesh on the internet, they can also go and ask forgiveness from their sin, as long as they tell the cameraman about Jesus, and they believe he died for their sin they are ok…

And I do not want to look at the internet porn, but my fingers just happen to type “Naked Girls” in the Google bar… I do not want to do it, but then I will always be sinner so it is ok…

I am saved YEAH!!! Oh I know I have to confess it, so here it is I am a Porn addict, tommoroow I will propably look again? Or should I stop? No that is liketrying to become perfect, no let me continue.

Sorry all I sinned today, Sorry Jesus I looked lustfully at women today, Tomorrow I will probably look again, and wait for my comfession tomorrow please Jesus…I AM SAVED BY THE CROSS…

Is this it? Is this how it works? I dout it, so tell me about the thief… Jesus says this is what a thief should do… 28Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Should I not tell this thief He is a hypocrate to thinlk he can stop stealing? And hey do not be a fool man, you do not have to give nobody diddly doo… You CANNOT do Good, you are a lousy thief man!!! You are saved by the blood of Jesus not by stopping to steal. And what is this nonsence of giving to the poor, tell them they are poor because they are lazy! Tell them to buzz of and get a job… Go and buy a Mercedes, and if you cannot afford it…Go steal some more money man. You are saved by grace man…

Do not go under the law that says “Thou shalt not steal” the law is gone, we live under grace not the law…

Man this is just CRAZY. So what shall I do to get saved?
Maybe you should take a break too Cobus.

This is so confusing and jumbled up.

Just weeeeeeird.
 
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We are saved by grace...... But Christ is our example. He came to show us how to have dominion over sin. The same power that raised Him from the dead is the same power we have in us. By His power we can discipline the flesh. Yes I know, we don't always get it right.

But there is a distinct difference between a person who just said "I cant be perfect so I'm not going to make and effort to please Him more"
and someone who in addition to appreciating the grace of salvation spends their life aspiring to live in the example He displayed.

While we acknowledge that as humans we don't always do it right and He is faithful and just to forgive us; We are empowered to overcome, we really dont need to fight for our right to sin.
Sorry thats not enough dude.

You need to crucify your flesh daiily...and deny yourself every second of the day....and hate yourself, and tremble with fright at God.....and then die...

...and then REALLY crucify your flesh again...(and never have fun or smile..basically become Russian)

...and mumble some gibberish. And then deny yourself some more.
 
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Zone let me ask you this... When i do sin, am I following the Holy Spirits lead? No! i follow my own. But I know I can come back where I left Him, or He comes back for me? Do you think it is now Possible to ask the Holy Spirit to lead me closer, so I do not AGAIN do the SAME thing, oh by the way I do not like doing it but before I can stop i did it. Do you think God can help with this. I hope so!

Zone you know I have always loved you, and I still do, and I can see you are a serious seeker, me too... I just seek a bit more from God than you, and God will exceed both our expectations. WHY because HE promised...SEEK and thou shall find!...

Listen Zone, we do not have much time left, in stead of arguing, may I raise the white flag and surrender? God knows my heart, and He knows me better than I know myself, or so I hope. I truly hope God knows me, if not, then you introduce us OK!

You know me well, you know I am not a hypocrate, I am not scared to open the books and chambers of my heart. And you know I love as much as I can, and there where my life is still a mess, I CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT! But maybe, just maybe, you can! So do not harden your heart to me today, just for today the 24th of August. I will also not harden my heart, and let us see what God does for BOTH of us, if we REALLY care for eachother, just 24 hours.

I love you and I need Jesus, to fill me with HIS love so that I can also love myself as much as I would like to love me. Sorry I would lie if I tell you I love myself, I think I am so confused, I love EVERYBODY more than myself, I still think EVERYBODY is better off than me. I am a wreched man, who will save me, or would wnat to save me? I am so wreched and crooket and evil... May God have mercy on me! Amen!
 
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.(and never have fun or smile..basically become Russian)
Hey my dad was Russian, I smile comrade, especially when I read your posts alot of times.
Ps it's crucify the lusts of the flesh, sensual desires, pot, meth, cocaine,acid just to name a few lol

Ok my dad hardly smiled
 
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Hey my dad was Russian, I smile comrade, especially when I read your posts alot of times.
Ps it's crucify the lusts of the flesh, sensual desires, pot, meth, cocaine,acid just to name a few lol

Ok my dad hardly smiled
lol

yes yes the Tongue-in-cheek Brigade seems to be out in full force today. wonder what the newbies think. :)

What rank are you Strangelove, Sergeant?
 
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I realize you were being sarcastic but......

Sorry thats not enough dude.

So not a dude. thx....

You need to crucify your flesh daiily...and deny yourself every second of the day....
To die daily is actually advice from God (1 Cor 15:31)

and hate yourself, and tremble with fright at God.....and then die...
this is the part that's not God for only Satan condemns and keeps our sins before us

...and then REALLY crucify your flesh again...
it should be our aim and really not something to look down on

(and never have fun or smile..basically become Russian) but it is not meant to destroy our smile but to lead us into to more freedom - the joy of the Lord is our strength even to a Russian

...and mumble some gibberish.
ok Totally lost me there........lol
 
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I realize you were being sarcastic but......

Sorry thats not enough dude.

So not a dude. thx....

You need to crucify your flesh daiily...and deny yourself every second of the day....
To die daily is actually advice from God (1 Cor 15:31)

and hate yourself, and tremble with fright at God.....and then die...
this is the part that's not God for only Satan condemns and keeps our sins before us

...and then REALLY crucify your flesh again...
it should be our aim and really not something to look down on

(and never have fun or smile..basically become Russian) but it is not meant to destroy our smile but to lead us into to more freedom - the joy of the Lord is our strength even to a Russian

...and mumble some gibberish.
ok Totally lost me there........lol
No but you REALLY need to crucify the flesh.....thats the point...REALLY.
 
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27And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. 28For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?
 
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I made the sum It is going to take ALL of me...Jesus wants it ALL or NOTHING!
 

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Ok I'm confused...do you agree that we have been mandated to (discipline) crucify the flesh or not?
 
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Ok I'm confused...do you agree that we have been mandated to (discipline) crucify the flesh or not?
We have to REALLY crucify the Flesh......do you understand what that means?
 

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allowing ungodly passions to die so that Christ might live in us
 

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So are just going to say no and not explain?????
 
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Cobus, Cobus, Cobus, (plants forehead in palm of left hand).

How about talking about Salvation through Jesus Christ instead of how "perfect" you are. You seem like a one trick pony when I read your'e posts.