Dietary Law?

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Dietary Law: Yes or No?

  • Yes, Law is still in place

    Votes: 6 37.5%
  • No, I can eat what I want

    Votes: 10 62.5%

  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .
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newbie8

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#1
Hello,

Is the dietary law still voided or not? If not, please provide scriptures. Here's my take:

Leviticus 11:26-47
Isaiah 66:15-17
Matthew 5:17-18
 
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sassylady

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#2
None of the laws is voided, but it seems under Grace we can and do eat what we want. But doctor's now know there is a good reason for not eating the things listed in the old testament. Probably would not hurt us to follow it actually.
 

john832

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None of the laws is voided, but it seems under Grace we can and do eat what we want. But doctor's now know there is a good reason for not eating the things listed in the old testament. Probably would not hurt us to follow it actually.
???Huh???

Because of grace we eat what we want? Trichina? Fugu? Ground glass?

The dietary Laws were given to show man what to put into his body and what not to. The Designer and Creator of the human body knows exactly what fuel to use in it.
 

Hizikyah

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The meaning of the vision IS GIVEN IN SCRIPTURE,

Acts 10:14, "But Kepha said; By no means, Ruler, for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."

19 Now while Kepha was thinking about the vision, the Spirit said to him; Behold, three men seek you.

If he did not yet know the meaning how could we?

Acts 10 is used to sat Jesus cured the ham.... lets see?

20 Arise therefore, and go below and go with them, doubting nothing; for I have sent them.


Acts 10:28, "And he said to them; You yourselves are aware how it is not Lawful for a Yahdai to associate with one of another nation, or to enter his house; but Yahweh has shown me that I must not call any man common or unclean."

Walk with me verse by verse brother. So you posted 12&15, in verse 19 Kepha (Pater) still does not YET understand;

[SUP]12 [/SUP]It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” [SUP]14 [/SUP]“Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”
[SUP]15 [/SUP]The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”
[SUP]16 [/SUP]This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]While Peter was wondering about the meaning of the vision, the men sent by Cornelius found out where Simon’s house was and stopped at the gate. [SUP]18 [/SUP]They called out, asking if Simon who was known as Peter was staying there.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]While Peter was wondering about the meaning of the vision

He did not yet understand the meaning how could you or I know the meaning by verse 17?, the holy Spirit did not yet reveal it:


[SUP]17 [/SUP]While Peter was wondering about the meaning of the vision

[SUP]19 [/SUP]While Peter was still thinking about the vision, the Spirit said to him, “Simon, three[SUP][a][/SUP] men are looking for you.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]So get up and go downstairs. Do not hesitate to go with them, for I have sent them.”
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Peter went down and said to the men, “I’m the one you’re looking for. Why have you come?”
[SUP]22 [/SUP]The men replied, “We have come from Cornelius the centurion. He is a righteous and God-fearing man, who is respected by all the Jewish people. A holy angel told him to ask you to come to his house so that he could hear what you have to say.”
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Then Peter invited the men into the house to be his guests.
The next day Peter started out with them, and some of the believers from Joppa went along. [SUP]
24 [/SUP]The following day he arrived in Caesarea. Cornelius was expecting them and had called together his relatives and close friends. [SUP]
25 [/SUP]As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”
[SUP]27 [/SUP]While talking with him, Peter went inside and found a large gathering of people.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]He said to them: “You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]So when I was sent for, I came without raising any objection. May I ask why you sent for me?”

"the Spirit said to him, “Simon, three[SUP][a][/SUP] men"

Remember?


[SUP]17 [/SUP]While Peter was wondering about the meaning of the vision
[SUP]19 [/SUP]While Peter was still thinking about the vision, the Spirit said to him, “Simon, three[SUP][a][/SUP] men are looking for you.


19 Now while Kepha was thinking about the vision, the Spirit said to him; Behold, three men seek you.
If he did not yet know the meaning how could we?

20 Arise therefore, and go below and go with them, doubting nothing; for I have sent them.


Acts 10:28, "And he said to them; You yourselves are aware how it is not Lawful for a Yahdai to associate with one of another nation, or to enter his house; but Yahweh has shown me that I must not call any man common or unclean."

and now if you like we can explore the forged words "Jesus declares all foods clean" Yes my fellow follower of Messiah, they are not in the original text.
The Spirit spoke, it was not about food.
 

Hizikyah

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"Thus Jesus declared all foods clean" IS NOT IN ANY ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPT AND WAS ADDED;


"Thus Jesus declared all foods clean"


Mark 7:1-23,

1 Then the Pharisees and certain scribes came together to Him, having come from Yerusalem.

2 And when they saw some of His disciples eating bread with defiled-that is to say, unwashed--hands, they found fault.

3 (Now the Pharisees, and the Yahdaim generally, never eat without washing their hands, holding the tradition of the elders. (Mat 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?")

4 And when they come from the marketplaces, they do not eat unless they wash. And many other traditions they observe, such as the ritual washing of cups, pots, bronze utensils, and beds.)

5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?

6 He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites--as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.

7 But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the Law of Yahweh, you hold the tradition of men!

9 Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!

So clearly Yahshua the Messiah rebukes them for not only making their own "laws" but actually casting aside the Laws of Yahweh. Since foods neing clean or unclean is a common understand attached to this passage, let us consider if food Laws are man made or if the Creator made these Laws.

Genesis 7:1-2, "Then Yahweh said to Noah: Come into the ark, you and all your household, for I have seen you righteous before Me in this generation. You shall take with you seven pairs of every clean animal, a male and his female; two of animals that are unclean, a male and his female;"

Leviticus 11:1-2, "And Yahweh spoke to Mosheh and Aaron, saying to them: Speak to the children of Israyl, saying; These are the animals you may eat among all the beasts upon the land" 43-44, "You shall not make yourselves abominable with any creature that moves about on the ground. Do not defile yourselves by means of them, nor be made unclean by them. I am Yahweh your Heavenly Father. You shall therefore consecrate and sanctify yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creature that moves about on the ground." 46-47, "This is the Law of the animals, and the birds, and every living thing that moves in the waters, and every creature that moves about on the ground. You must distinguish between the unclean and the clean--between the animal that may be eaten, and the animal that may not be eaten."

We can see these Laws literally came directly from the mouth of Yahweh, so when Messiah said: "How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!" It is clear He is not rebuking them for telling people to follow Yahweh's food Laws, but for their pharisee hand washing "law."

Malakyah 3:6-7, "For I am Yahweh, I change not; therefore you sons of Yaaqob are not consumed. Ever since the days of your fathers you have turned away from My ordinances, and have not kept them. Return to Me, and I will return to you! says Yahweh of hosts. But you said; How will we return?"

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

10 For Mosheh said: Honor your father and your mother; and: Whoever curses father or mother, let him be put to death;

11 But you say(Pharisees); If a man will say to his father or mother: Anything of mine which might have benefited you is qorban (that is, a gift set apart for Yahweh)--

12 You excuse him from doing what he is obligated to do for his father and his mother;

13 Making the Laws of Yahweh of no effect through your tradition you have handed down! And many other similar things you do.

More evidence of the pharisees adding their own laws to the people why excusing themselves from following Yahweh;s Law.

14 And when He had called all the people to Him, He said to them: Everyone, listen to Me and understand!

15 There is nothing from outside a man, that entering into him can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are things which defile the man.

16 If any man has ears to hear, let him hear!

17 But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable.
 

Hizikyah

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"unwashed--hands."

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Mark 7:18 "Are you so dull?" he asked.

That He did ask, you know why... THE PEOPLE WERE "CAUGHT UP", "RAPTURED" IN TRADITION...

7 But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the Law of Yahweh, you hold the tradition of men!

9 Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!

Because Messiah say: "nothing from outside a man, that entering into him can defile him" many that want to reject Yahweh;s food Laws say see I can eat! But when did context of Scripture not matter? In context the entire passage is about eating with "unwashed--hands."

Did Peter wait on the Spirit to understand the meaning? Do we look at context?Can we completely remove it from its context and expect to get the true meaning? Also if you consider verse 17, "His disciples asked Him about the parable," yet "all things are clean food" is taught as doctrine, not as parable........Again in context verse 17, parable. SO Messiah proceeds to explain further:

18 He said to them;Are you also without understanding? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him,

19 Because it does not enter into his heart; mind, but his stomach, and then into the toilet as all food is eliminated?

19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

Now this is where the deception comes in, as you see I have shown verse 19 translated 2 different ways. Which one is correct? The second translation is the much more common translation, here is a short list of translations that match the second translation (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean): New International Version, New Living Translation, English Standard Version, New American Standard Bible, Holman Christian Standard Bible, NET Bible, GOD'S WORD Translation, English Revised Version, Weymouth New Testament.

We will look at the original language, but first I want to mention again, CONTEXT, can we somehow go from the whole topic being about a hand washing ritual and unclean animals not even being in the discussion to unclean animals are now food?

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The first thing you will notice is the words, "In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean," are completely absent. Before moving on, I want to ask, why did someone feel the need to forge words into the text that are not there. Is it ok to just add words wherever I want? Of course not.

19 Because it does not enter into his heart but his stomach, and then into the toilet (856) as all food is cleansed out (2511)?

19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

856 - aphedrón
aphedrón: a place of sitting apart, i.e. a privy, drain
Original Word: ἀφεδρών, ῶνος, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aphedrón
Phonetic Spelling: (af-ed-rone')
Short Definition: a drain, latrine
Definition: a drain, latrine
Word Origin - from apo and hedraios
Definition - a place of sitting apart, i.e. a privy, drain

2511 - katharizó

katharizó: to cleanse
Original Word: καθαρίζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: katharizó
Phonetic Spelling: (kath-ar-id'-zo)
Short Definition: I make clean
Definition: I cleanse, make clean, literally, ceremonially, or spiritually, according to context.
Word Origin - from katharos
Definition - to cleanse

20 Then He said: That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man;

21 For from within--out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

22 Thefts, lust, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, and foolishness--

23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."

No this is not about pork, it is about the pharisee making a show they are holy with their appearances, but Messiah is saying evil is that which should be guarded against.

This exact same account is also detailed in Mattithyah 15, and this is also shown there:

Mattithyah 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?"

Mattithyah 15:17, "Do you not yet understand that whatever enters in at the mouth goes into the stomach, and then is cast out in elimination?"

But is we keep readin we see the meaning of the PARABLE:

Mark 7:17, " But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable."

Mattithyah 15:15, "But Kepha spoke, and said to Him; Explain this parable to us."

Kepha is Peter, so if all foods were cleansed why did Kepha years later still not eat unclean food?

Acts 10:14, "But Kepha said; By no means, Ruler, for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."

Because Mark 7 & and Matt 15 were not about food but a pharisee hand washing ritual as the parable is explained here same event, but the full explanation was not given, as Matt was His disciple and there with Him when it happened:

Mattithyah 15:20, "These are the things which defile a man--but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."

As Acts 10 was not about food either:

Acts 10:28, "And he said to them; You yourselves are aware how it is not Lawful for a Yahdai to associate with one of another nation, or to enter his house; but Yahweh has shown me that I must not call any man common or unclean."

So in Mattithyah the parable is fully explained, yet in Mark it is not, is it possibe that is why those false words were added to Mark 7:19? If they were added to Mattithyah 15, it would have been a contradiction, but Mark having not being fully explained, it left the door open.
Mk 17 But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable.

Mt 15:20, "These are the things which defile a man--but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."
 

Hizikyah

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deceitful spirits and teachings of demons ?


1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
King James Bible


1 Timothy 4:3, "Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."

Genesis 7:1-2, "Then Yahweh said to Noah: Come into the ark, you and all your household, for I have seen you righteous before Me in this generation. You shall take with you seven pairs of every clean animal, a male and his female; two of animals that are unclean, a male and his female;"

The Creator Created this, demons did not create this:

Lev 11"And Yahweh spoke..; These are the animals you may eat among all the beasts upon the land" "You shall not make yourselves abominable with any creature that moves about on the ground. Do not defile yourselves by means of them, nor be made unclean by them. I am Yahweh your Heavenly Father. You shall therefore consecrate and sanctify yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creature that moves about on the ground." "This is the Law of the animals, and the birds, and every living thing that moves in the waters, and every creature that moves about on the ground. You must distinguish between the unclean and the clean--between the animal that may be eaten, and the animal that may not be eaten."

Isayah:16 For by fire and by His sword will Yahweh plead with all flesh; and the slain of Yahweh will be many. 17 They who sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens, following after the priest (ONE in the center) in the midst of those who eat swine's flesh, that which is offered to gods and the rodent--will be consumed together: says Yahweh. For I know their works and their thoughts. It will come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they will come and see My glory.

The Hebrew text renders this phrase: following the one in the center, rather than: one behind the other, as in the KJv. This ONE in the center is an idolatrous PRIEST or PREACHER. A Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament by Julius Furst, Page 1463.


God created to be received with thanksgiving
You shall take with you seven pairs of every clean animal, a male and his female; two of animals that are unclean
You must distinguish between the unclean and the clean--between the animal that may be eaten, and the animal that may not be eaten
God created to be received with thanksgiving

Are There Deadly Superbugs in Your Pork?
Are There Deadly Superbugs in Your Pork?

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The Unsavory Side of Pork

The pork and swine industry has been continually plagued, and continues to be so to this day, by a wide variety of hazardous and deadly infections and diseases, including:

PRRS -- A horrendous disease, which I first reported on in 2001, but which had been a nightmare for many nations since the mid-1980s, is still alive and kicking today.

At one point referred to as "swine mystery disease," "blue abortion," and "swine infertility," the disease was finally named "Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome” (PRRS), and may afflict about 75 percent of American pig herds.

The PRRS virus primarily attacks the pig’s immune system, leaving its body open to a host of infections, particularly in the lungs. Initial research revealed that the virus was transmitted via semen, saliva and blood, leaving pigs herded closely together and transported in close quarters by trucks more susceptible to infection.

However, according to new research presented at the 2007 International PRRS Symposium shows that the disease is now airborne, making eradication efforts very difficult. According to the PRRS Coordinated Agricultural Project (CAP) and the National Pork Board, it is still the most economically significant disease of swine in the U.S.

The Nipah Virus – Discovered in 1999, the Nipah virus has caused disease in both animals and humans, through contact with infected animals. In humans, the virus can lead to deadly encephalitis (an acute inflammation of your brain). I originally reported on this virus in 2000, but according to CDC data, the Nipah virus reemerged again in 2004.

Hepatitis E (HEV) – According to the Mayo Clinic and an article in the Journal of Clinical Biology, pork may be the reservoir responsible for sporadic, locally acquired cases of acute hepatitis reported in regions with relatively mild climates as HEV has been found to transmit between swine and humans.

Porcine Endogenous Retrovirus (PERV) – According to a study in the journal Lancet, this virus can spread to people receiving pig organ transplants, and according to test tube studies, PERV strains does have the ability to infect human cells. PERV genes are scattered throughout pigs' genetic material, and researchers have found that pig heart, spleen and kidney cells release various strains of the virus.

Menangle Virus – In 1998, the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases reported that a new virus infecting pigs was able to jump to humans. The menangle virus was discovered in August 1997 when sows at an Australian piggery began giving birth to deformed and mummified piglets.


Trichinosis
Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine, 3rd ed. | 2006 | Carson-DeWitt, Rosalyn | Copyright
Definition:Trichinosis is a disease caused by a roundworm (nematode) called Trichinella spiralis. An individual worm of this species is called a trichina, from the Greek word meaning "hairlike." Trichinae can be readily avoided by proper handling and cooking of certain meats, particularly pork products.
Description

The life cycle of T. spiralis includes several different stages. The adult trichina lives in the intestinal lining of such meat-eating animals as swine, bears, walrus, and rodents. After mating, the male worm dies while the female goes on to produce the offspring.

Roundworms have a stage of development called the embryonic stage, which in many species occurs after birth. In trichinae, however, this embryonic stage occurs within the uterus of the female, so the offspring that are ultimately discharged into the host's intestinal lining are in the larval second stage of life. These larvae—about 1500 from each female worm—travel through the circulatory system to the heart, then through the blood vessels leading to striated muscle (the muscle of the skeletal system and the heart). Most larvae that cannot find suitable locations in striated muscle will die.

Those larvae that reach striated muscle will grow to a length of about one millimeter, coil themselves, and enclose themselves within a protective wall called a cyst. This process is referred to as encysting. The worms in the cysts can live for up to ten years in this form.

A pig that has been infected with T. spiralis, then, has thousands of cysts lying dormant within its muscles—the very muscles that humans look forward to consuming in the form of pork chops, ham, barbecued ribs, etc. When humans sit down to a delicious meal of undercooked, trichina-infected pig dinner, they are ingesting T. spiralis cysts. The cyst walls are broken down by the usual process of food digestion in the stomach, allowing the larvae to escape into the new host's intestines. There the larvae mature to become adult worms, capable of producing a new crop of larvae. When these new larvae hatch, they begin their migration throughout the human host's bloodstream to his or her muscles, where they live for a short while before encysting.
Causes and symptoms

Human hosts who eat meat infested with trichinae may experience symptoms in varying degrees. If the meat ingested has only a few cysts, then the human host's load of parasites (worm burden) is said to be relatively small, and symptoms will be moderate. In fact, many trichinosis infections are subclinical, which means that the symptoms are so mild that the infection remains undiagnosed. In a host with a greater worm burden, the initial symptoms will be caused by the presence of the adult worms in the intestine. These symptoms usually include fever, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and perhaps vomiting. The symptoms begin about one to two days after eating the contaminated meat, and may last for a week or so.

When the larvae begin their migration through the blood vessels, the host will begin to experience symptoms that affect the whole body (systemic symptoms), such as fever; swelling of the face and the area around the eyes; rash; bleeding into the nail beds, retina, and whites of the eyes; and cough. In very severe cases of trichinosis, inflammation of the heart muscle (myocarditis ), lungs (pneumonitis), or brain (encephalitis) may occur. These symptoms can lead to the few deaths caused by trichinosis.

The larvae begin to burrow into the host's muscles and form cysts within two to three weeks of the initial infection. This encysting produces signs of muscle inflammation (myositis) including swelling of the affected muscle groups, pain, and weakness. The most frequently affected muscles are the muscles outside the eye (extraocular muscles) that control eye movements; the muscles of the jaw, neck, and upper arm (biceps muscle); the muscles of the lower back (lumbar region); and the diaphragm, which is the muscle that separates the abdominal and chest cavities and aids in breathing.

The symptoms of trichinosis are at their most severe at about three weeks after infection, and decrease very slowly in their severity. Recovery is extremely gradual, and symptoms may last for as long as three months. Fatigue and muscle pain (myalgia) may take several more months to subside.
Diagnosis

An initial diagnosis of trichinosis relies heavily on the presence of its classic symptoms—swelling around the eyes, muscle inflammation, fever, and high levels of a certain type of white blood cell (eosinophils)—coupled with the patient's history. If the patient reports having eaten undercooked meat from an animal known to be a potential carrier of trichinosis, the doctor may order a muscle biopsy to confirm the diagnosis. By the third or fourth week of infection, muscle biopsies usually indicate the presence of larvae. Stool tests rarely reveal adult worms, although larvae can sometimes be found in blood or duodenal washings after the second week of infection. The blood test that is the most specific for trichinosis is the bentonite flocculation (BF) test.

T. spiralis can infect a number of different animal species used for food. The most common food culprit in the United States has been pork sausage, while outbreaks in Europe have caused by wild boar and horse meat. Outbreaks of trichinosis in Asia and Africa have been traced to dog meat, and outbreaks in Northern Canada have resulted from consumption of walrus and bear meat.
Treatment
Supportive care

Treatment of trichinosis is primarily aimed at decreasing the severity of the symptoms. Symptomatic relief includes bed rest and medications to relieve fever and muscle pain. The medications most commonly given are aspirin and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). Steroids such as prednisone (Deltasone, Meticorten) are reserved for the most severe cases of muscle inflammation, or for complicated cases that include myocarditis.
Anthelminthic medications

In addition to medications for pain relief, trichinosis can be treated with drugs that are called anti-worm medications or anthelminthics. Two related anti-worm medications, mebendazole (Vermox) and thiabendazole (Mintezol), have been reported to be effective against intestinal larvae, but not against larvae encysted in the muscles. In particular, thiabendazole has worked best when given to patients who knew within 24 hours that they had eaten infested meat. Thiabendazole has, however, anti-inflammatory properties that can relieve some of the pain during the muscle stage of trichinosis.
Prognosis

The prognosis for recovery from trichinosis is generally good. Most people with the disease are unaware that they have even been infected. It is estimated that between 150,000 and 300,00 people in the United States become infected yearly, so that at any given time, 1.5 million people have T. spiralis infections. Most of these people have such light cases that trichinosis is never identified. Worm burden is measured in larvae per gram of muscle tissue; people with 10 or fewer larvae per gram of muscle tissue usually have no significant symptoms. When the number climbs to 100 larvae per gram of muscle tissue, the symptoms become noticeable. People with over 1000 larvae per gram of muscle tissue are usually extremely ill, and often die. The mortality rate of trichinosis is about 1%.
Prevention

Prevention of trichinosis is relatively simple. Swine should be fed only grain or cooked garbage because uncooked garbage may contain contaminated pork scraps. Meat from animals prone to trichinosis infection should be cooked or smoked thoroughly until it is no longer pink. Freezing meat at an adequately low temperature (5°F/-15°C for three weeks) can kill most encysted larvae, except for species which infect such arctic mammals as walrus or bear.
Resources
ORGANIZATIONS

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 1600 Clifton Rd., NE, Atlanta, GA 30333. (800) 311-3435, (404) 639-3311. 〈http://www.cdc.gov〉.
KEY TERMS

Anthelminthic— A type of medication that is given to destroy or eliminate parasitic worms.

Cyst— In the life cycle of the round worm, a protective, walled-off capsule in which the larvae lie dormant.

Embryonic— In the life cycle of the round worm, a very early life stage occurring within the uterus of the female round worm.

Host— The animal within which a parasite lives, and from which the parasite receives its nutrition.

Inflammation— A reaction within the body to an invader (virus, bacteria, fungus, worm, etc.) or to tissue injury. The classic signs of inflammation include redness, heat, pain, and loss of function.

Larva— In the life cycle of the round worm, the second stage of life, sometimes considered the "adolescent" stage.

Nematode— A type of roundworm with a long, unsegmented body, usually parasitic on animals or plants.

Striated muscle— Also known as striped muscle; it includes muscles of the skeletal system and of the heart.

Trichina— An individual example of Trichinella spiralis.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/trichinosis.aspx
 

Hizikyah

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Whew, last one;

Isayah 66:17, "They who sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens, following after the "priest in the midst" of those who eat swine's flesh, that which is offered to gods and the rodent--will be consumed together: says Yahweh."

The Hebrew text renders this phrase: following the one in the center, rather than: one behind the other, as in the King James version. This ONE in the center is an idolatrous PRIEST or PREACHER. A Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament by Julius Furst, Page 1463.

f you look at the Scripture I believe i is undeniable;

Mark 7:1,2,17
1 Then the Pharisees and certain scribes came together to Him, having come from Yerusalem.
2 And when they saw some of His disciples eating bread with defiled-that is to say, unwashed--hands, they found fault.
3 (Now the Pharisees, and the Yahdaim generally, never eat without washing their hands, holding the tradition of the elders.
17 But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable.

Mt 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?")

Mt 15:20, "These are the things which defile a man--but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."

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17 But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable.



asked


Him about the parable.

Mt 15:20, "These are the things which defile a man--but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."

Remember in context what was Messiah's whole berating of the Pahrisees about?

Their traditions, and even named;
but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."
 

Elin

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Hello,

Is the dietary law still voided or not? If not, please provide scriptures. Here's my take:

Leviticus 11:26-47
Isaiah 66:15-17
Matthew 5:17-18
Everything is clean for us (Lk 11:41).
See Ro 14:14, 17, 20; 1Co 8:8, 10:25; 1Tim 4:3-5; Heb 9:9-10; Col 2:16-19.
 

john832

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Everything is clean for us (Lk 11:41).
See Ro 14:14, 17, 20; 1Co 8:8, 10:25; 1Tim 4:3-5; Heb 9:9-10; Col 2:16-19.

Well, go have some poison dart frog with fugu on the side then.
 

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Well, go have some poison dart frog with fugu on the side then.
Jesus said it is not what goes into the belly that defiles but what comes out of the heart.

Strain the gnat and swallow the camel.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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Jesus said it is not what goes into the belly that defiles but what comes out of the heart.

Strain the gnat and swallow the camel.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Mattithyah 15:20, "These are the things which defile a man--but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."

So the amazing work of Messiah is the cured ham? I think not... why would he want us to eat things that are terribly harmful to our bodies?
 

john832

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Jesus said it is not what goes into the belly that defiles but what comes out of the heart.

Strain the gnat and swallow the camel.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
And Peter didn't get the hint, in fact he didn't even suspect this...

Act 10:14 But Peter said, "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean."

Act 10:17 Now while Peter wondered within himself what this vision which he had seen meant, behold, the men who had been sent from Cornelius had made inquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate.

Funny, Peter spent 3-1/2 years with Christ in person, was given the Holy Spirit on Pentecost...

Joh 16:13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

and was a powerful teacher of the Good News...

Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, "Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words.

and he didn't get the memo?
 

Hizikyah

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"Thus Jesus declared all foods clean" IS NOT IN ANY ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPT AND WAS ADDED;


It's in the manuscripts.

Which ones are you looking at?


Manuscripts - CSNTM
I stand by my statement.. original, it was added later, this is common knowledge among "scholars" which I lay no claim to being, but I have read their work. and by simple reading of Scripture food is not even the topic a pharisee LAW of hand washing was and it even states in Scripture:parable

17 But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable.

To me this is clear as day, but when I read just any translation I did not know this, it was when Yah guided me that I found (what I call) truth
 
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[h=1]Acts 10:10-15[/h]10 And he became hungry and wanted something to eat, but while they were preparing it, he fell into a trance 11 and sawthe heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. 12 In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air. 13 And there came a voice to him: “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” 14 But Peter said, “By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean.” 15 And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”





[h=1]1 Timothy 4:1-5[/h]
4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
 

john832

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I stand by my statement.. original, it was added later, this is common knowledge among "scholars" which I lay no claim to being, but I have read their work. and by simple reading of Scripture food is not even the topic a pharisee LAW of hand washing was and it even states in Scripture:parable

17 But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable.

To me this is clear as day, but when I read just any translation I did not know this, it was when Yah guided me that I found (what I call) truth
Funny thing about those who misquote Mark 7, they never seem to include nor emphasize this verse...

Mar 7:2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.

And the word for bread here is not broma but rather...

G740

ἄρτος
artos
ar'-tos
From G142; bread (as raised) or a loaf: - (shew-) bread, loaf.
Total KJV occurrences: 99

The whole passage is about eating BREAD without CEREMONIALLY WASHING their hands according to their TRADITION.

The passage is not about clean and unclean but rather about this...

Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
 

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I stand by my statement.. original, it was added later, this is common knowledge among "scholars" which I lay no claim to being,
What scholars? I just sent a link to images of the NT manuscripts. You don't have to be a scholar to look at the text of Mark 7:29 and compare to the manuscripts of Mark 7:19 and see if they match. The earliest one of Mark 7:19 is P45. Yes, they match. The next step would be to look at the major uncials (Sinaiticus, Vaticanus, Alexandrinus, Ephraemi, and Bezae) and see if they match.

This isn't particularly hard. Sure a little time consuming, but essentially all you have to do is see if they match.
 

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Acts 10:10-15

10 And he became hungry and wanted something to eat, but while they were preparing it, he fell into a trance 11 and sawthe heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. 12 In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air. 13 And there came a voice to him: “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” 14 But Peter said, “By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean.” 15 And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”





1 Timothy 4:1-5


4Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Glad you introduce I Tim 4, let's take a look...

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

We are investigating doctrines introduced by demons.

Lev 11:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
Lev 11:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.

So this is a doctrine of God. I'd be really careful about labeling one of God's doctrines a doctrine of demons.

1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

There are a couple of things mentioned here, do you know of any great universal church that has an unmarried (though not celibate) priesthood?

Secondly, I can think of two organizations that teach one should abstain from meats. One used to teach that fish is not a meat and you can eat fish on Friday but not meat.

1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

Notice the colon following thanksgiving? Means a list of explanation is to follow...

1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

This doesn't get highlighted often, does it? Now where in the word of God do we find meats sanctified (set apart)?

Uh, lemme take a wild guess, Lev 11 and Deut 14.
 

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What scholars? I just sent a link to images of the NT manuscripts. You don't have to be a scholar to look at the text of Mark 7:29 and compare to the manuscripts of Mark 7:19 and see if they match. The earliest one of Mark 7:19 is P45. Yes, they match. The next step would be to look at the major uncials (Sinaiticus, Vaticanus, Alexandrinus, Ephraemi, and Bezae) and see if they match.

This isn't particularly hard. Sure a little time consuming, but essentially all you have to do is see if they match.
Typo: "7:29" should read 7:19