DiscipleDave said
OSAS is such a document that teaches you can't possibly lose your Salvation, therefore doesn't matter what you do you still can't lose it.
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HUGE FAIL.
OSAS does NOT advocate free sinning "so that grace may increase". And ANY sin, yes, can be forgiven. No matter how big or small.
Blaspheme of the Holy Ghost can not be forgiven. So tell me, if a person is Saved and they are always Saved, and lets say the blaspheme the Holy Ghost, are they still SAVED? Yes or No?
How many hundreds of example like this one does the OSAS camp ignore, refute, make void, or cast off? If OSAS is True, then a person who is SAVED can't possibly blaspheme the Holy Ghost can they? Because if they could, then OSAS is not, nor can be the Truth. Because it is not the Truth. but keep holding on to that false doctrine, because it makes you feel all fuzzy and warm inside. Does not make it True though.
And you are absolutely right in saying OSAS does not advocate free sinning. But what it does do, is teach that if you did live in continual sins you are still SAVED. matters of fact it teaches that you CAN blaspheme the Holy Ghost and still be SAVED. it teaches that when a person is SAVED their name is written in the Book of Life and can NEVER be removed, because Once Saved, You are Always SAVED, despite the Word of God teaches a person name can be blotted out of the Book of Life. So your right OSAS does not advocate free sinning, it advocates that if you do your still SAVED.
We advocate all should abstain from sin as much as humanly possible.
Is it not written that there is no temptation that is so strong that you can't handle it? Now if there were sins that were so strong that you could not handle it, i would understand your above statement, that we should abstain from sin as much as humanly possible. But every temptation is such that it is only strong enough that you CAN handle it, and with every temptation Jesus allows a path out of that temptation, are you now saying that it is not humanly possible to do so? know this. There is no sin that you do that you can't cease from, therefore be prepared to answer for yourself on Judgement Day WHY you did not cease from them.
But should (and when (it is inevitable)) we sin, we should seek forgiveness and God is Just and will forgive us.
True, But True forgiveness is granted to those who Truly repent.
a man comes home and beats his wife, afterwards he repents and says he is sorry. The next night he comes home from work and again beats his wife, and again repents and says he is sorry. This he does every night, beats his wife, and repents of it. Tell me, how sorry is he, even though he repents of it?
A Saved person commits fornication, and he goes to God in prayer and repents of it. He again commits fornication and again repents of it to God in prayer. Another week goes by and again he commits fornication and again repents of it. This he continues to do, to fornicate then repent of it. Tell me how sorry is he, if he continues to fornicate?
i will tell you the Truth, that man even though he claims to be Saved, and a Christian, will be judged as a fornicator, which will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, despite how many time he repents of his fornicating.
A person Truly repents of a particular sin when they repent of it, AND CEASE to ever do it again, this man will be forgiven and not be found a fornicator on Judgment Day.
Do you know how a person can tell if they are being truly repentant. When a person prays to God and Says God please forgive me of ____________________, i will NEVER do it again.
NOT this generation this generation prays to God "God please forgive me of ________________________. KNOWING full well they will do it again. This person is NOT forgiven, even though they repented with their mouths of it.
Why people take away from the strength and power of the cross in unfathomable to me.
The Strength and the power of the cross applies to a person when the are SAVED, the moment they accept Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord. It is at that moment, that Jesus took the punishments for that persons sins up to that point in their life, by His Stripes, it is at that time, when Christ went to the cross and died for that person on the cross.
What do you think Jesus goes to the cross every single time you commit a sin and ask for forgiveness? God forbid, this Jesus did for us ONCE, the moment we accept Him as our Savior and Lord, is when He did that for that person. He does not continually go to the cross over and over and over again. You do error if you think He does.
The Power and the Strength of the cross is to SAVE the lost, to SAVE the unbelievers. to SAVE the UNSAVED. If it were not for the power and the Strength of the cross, nobody could be SAVED.
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