2 Peter 2 (Let's get into it)

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OK have put responses in Red above.
Ok....so in your religion anyone that is having a battle with the flesh and doesn't over come it goes to hell.

So, this means that someone who is over weight and dies because of gluttony ( if they are over-weight because of over eating - there are other factors too sometimes for being over weight ) - they go to hell.

This applies to strife, envy, causing divisions, those that have outbursts of anger from time to time...etc.

My goodness - I really encourage you to ask the Lord about the true gospel of the grace of God. Your religion condemns so many people to hell and all babes in Christ. I can now understand the need for some to create and maintain their own righteousness which is NOT the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.


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In the case of those who practice homosexuality (willful, habitual lifestyle, no repentance, just bring it on) they are not in the faith. We can agree on that. According to 1 Corinthians 6:9 and Galatians 5:19-21, these people are described as "unrighteous" who "practice" such sins. They are not believers who lost their salvation, but unbelievers who never received it. *Also see 1 John 3:7-10.

In regards to the case of the man who had his father's wife in 1 Corinthians 5:1-5, this man truly stumbled and was in need of repentance in regards to this matter. How long did he stumble? We don't know for sure, yet Paul did not say the man lost his salvation and needed to get saved all over again. He was to receive discipline (delivered to Satan for the destruction of the flesh) yet (that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus). How long did this man stumble? We don't know for sure, yet some may argue that he did repent in 2 Corinthians chapter 2. Temporarily stumbling in the present does not necessarily mean continuous action in the future.

In 1 Corinthians 3:1-3, Paul addresses the Corinthian believers who were behaving as men of the flesh/carnal. There was envy, strife and divisions among them and they were still on milk and not ready for solid food. That would not be considered practicing sin and nothing is mentioned about them losing their salvation either and needing to repent of their envy, strife and divisions in order to get saved all over again. Instead, Paul refers to them as "babes in Christ." They needed to mature.
From the red above. Are you saying a believer can never fall into adultery? In other words you agree then with sinless perfection? Where is your dividing line, that's what I'm trying to determine.
 
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I believe that the Holy Spirit knew what He was doing when He had Paul write 1 Corinthians.

Some of them were going to temple prostitutes for sex, they were taking each other to court, they were in divisions and strife, they were not treating the poor amongst them right...etc.

Paul was saying that those in Corinth were acting like mere men and men of flesh - in other words not being spiritually minded.

1 Corinthians 3:1-4 (NASB)
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And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual men, but as to men of flesh, as to infants in Christ.

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I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able to receive it. Indeed, even now you are not yet able,

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for you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like mere men?

[SUP]4 [/SUP] For when one says, "I am of Paul," and another, "I am of Apollos," are you not mere men?


I noticed that in verse 1 Paul says that they are "babes in Christ".

- not that you are going to hell because you are walking after the flesh.
Or that because they were sinning - that they are not born of God.
 
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There is a massive difference between church discipline to protect the people from other's bad behavior and the Lord sending believers in Christ to hell as can be seen by the letter Paul said to the 1 Corinthians.

Paul told them who they were in Christ...then corrected their behavior

He didn't say you were all unsaved now or that because they were walking after the flesh in their strife and divisions or that they were not born of God and even if you are a believer - God will still throw you in hell - like some people try to teach.

( without understanding the new creation in Christ - this "works of the flesh" part will throw people off because they don't understand what is being done by giving in to the flesh and what the new man is Christ really is. )

Paul told them who they were in Christ
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Here are 7 things that Paul confirmed as truth in the believers in Corinth before he went on to correct their behavior.


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The Corinthians have been sanctified in Christ Jesus,

2) The Corinthians were now
saints by calling

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The Corinthians in everything were enriched in Him,

4) The Corinthians had
the testimony concerning Christ was confirmed in them,

5) The Corinthians had
that God will also confirm them to the end, blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ

6) The Corinthians had that it was by Gods doing that we are in Christ
( Not our own D.I.Y. self-righteousness and holiness
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7) That because the Corinthians were in Christ - Christ Himself became to them wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption



1 Corinthians 1:1-9 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

[SUP]2 [/SUP] To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:

[SUP]3 [/SUP] Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

[SUP]4 [/SUP] I thank my God always concerning you for the grace of God which was given you in Christ Jesus,

[SUP]5 [/SUP] that in everything you were enriched in Him, in all speech and all knowledge,

[SUP]6 [/SUP] even as the testimony concerning Christ was confirmed in you,
[SUP]7 [/SUP] so that you are not lacking in any gift, awaiting eagerly the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ,

[SUP]8 [/SUP] who will also confirm you to the end, blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[SUP]9 [/SUP] God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

1 Corinthians 1:30 (NASB)
[SUP]30 [/SUP] But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption,


Preach and teach the grace of Christ as it is the only think that teaches us how to live godly in this world. Titus 2:11-12. The word of His grace is the only thing that is able to build us up and that gives us the inheritance that is ours in Christ. Acts 20:32
 

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In brown above is where the "lose your salvation belief system" stumbles at. Envy, strife and divisions are just as much a work of the flesh as sexual sinning is.

We Christians love to categorize sins by the one that "we or our group" don't do.

That's why we need to be preaching the love and grace of God in Christ so that believers can grow up in Him.

There is a place for church discipline in order to stop others from influencing the others but that is a different story from what Christ has done in the new creation which is the new man of the heart created in righteousness and holiness.
But otherwise yall teach that in actuality remaining infants in Christ and in continuance of desires of the flesh has no eternal affects but only worldly.

Even though scripture speaks of falling away and dire warnings against it. Yall pick a part of scripture that is a warning to those to mature up. Just because Paul didn't mention anything too negative here doesn't disown the idea from all other scripture.

Its time we stop picking and choosing what scripture fits our belief and fit all scripture as one. If all scripture is as one the the scriptures on falling away and apostasy are very real as the warning against it.

Its not that hard to wonder why take the time to warn believers about something that never could happen.


All I can say remain in infant faith, gamble with the Lords mercy.

Because deep down yall say with your mouths to mature and resist sin but behind that yall also say but hey if you dont your eternally secure and it will only hurt you in your physical body.

But oh yah then yall will say oh these people where never true believers, because yall deny that they could fall away, and say God does everything in a true believer making it impossible for them to fall away. Misinterpreting all sorts of scripture to get these conclusions.

I truly feel sorry for all who get caught in this false belief that wraps Calvinism up in a nice little bow.
 
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Yes...if we live according to the flesh we will die before our time on this earth...sometimes it comes quicker then others while we are in this earth.

Take up shooting heroin in your arms today and you will be dead soon enough. Engage in homosexual sex and AIDS could kill you quickly.

Now malice and slander as well as strife, envy, divisions and "things like these" as Gal 5:21 says - these show up in a different way in death.

But in all this - the Christian is never not "in the Spirit". They are deceived or just not taught the true gospel of the grace of Christ as only grace teaches us how to live godly in this present world Titus 2:11-12.

That's why we should be teaching the true grace of Christ which only comes by total dependence on Christ by grace through faith. - not by works. The good works will manifest as the grace of Christ is brought to us.

1 Peter 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit,fix your hope completely on the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.


Only the grace of God will give us in this life on earth part of our inheritance that is ours because we are in Christ.

Acts 20:32 (NASB)
[SUP]32 [/SUP] "And now I commend you
to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and to give you the inheritance among all those who are sanctified.

Good works do not "produce grace". Grace produces "good works" as a fruit of our union with Christ as the Holy Spirit transforms us outwardly to reflect our true nature which is already in us in our new creation in Christ - created in righteousness and holiness.
 

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Ok....so in your religion anyone that is having a battle with the flesh and doesn't over come it goes to hell.

Revelation 2v7b
To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.”’


1 John 5v4
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.



So, this means that someone who is over weight and dies because of gluttony ( if they are over-weight because of over eating - there are other factors too sometimes for being over weight ) - they go to hell.

God knows all the details. That's why He is a fair and righteous judge. If there is a true medical condition (as opposed to desires of the flesh), I'm sure He decides perfectly. He knows every heart.

This applies to strife, envy, causing divisions, those that have outbursts of anger from time to time...etc.

My goodness - I really encourage you to ask the Lord about the true gospel of the grace of God. Your religion condemns so many people to hell and all babes in Christ. I can now understand the need for some to create and maintain their own righteousness which is NOT the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.

It is, as the bible says, a narrow gate, and few that find it.

Matthew 7
[SUP]13 [/SUP]“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Because[SUP][a][/SUP] narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.



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1 Corinthians 2:14New King James Version (NKJV) [SUP]
14 [/SUP]But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
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How do we overcome? John gives us the answer:

“You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.” (1 Jn 4:4)

Overcoming is not about jumping through hoops and satisfying the expectations of men. It’s about depending on The Overcomer who lives in you.

“For everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.” (1 Jn 5:4-5)

Are you born of God? Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God? If yes, then the Overcomer lives in you and you can’t help but be an overcomer.

That’s why Jesus told the disciples to be encouraged during times of tribulation; because he – not they – had overcome the world and because they would carry his overcoming Spirit within them.

We are called to fight the good fight of faith! Believe in what Christ has done and His life will be manifested in every circumstance of our life while on this earth.
 
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those who chose wilful blindness over knowledge can never be convinced by logic because they do not really have the LOGOS (sound logical mind of God), if they did they would not regurgitate easily proven lies. Knowing this first that sin is completely illogical and unintelligent, an impulse of the belly rather than sound reasoning. Come let us reason together saieth the Lord..
 

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The world is the lusts of the flesh, lusts of the eyes, and the pride of life.

To overcome the world (by faith) means to overcome the above.

You have NO TESTIMONY by simply giving lip service to your faith but yielding no discernable change in your behaviour.

A genuine faith in Christ will result in victory. If the Son sets you free, you are free indeed.
 
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Two different things, one is a believer who stumbles and the other is a believer who turns away from Christ and becomes an unbeliever...and that is possible. There is an assumption being made, that no true believer has ever or will ever, by an act of the will, turn completely away from the Lord and stay that way. The bible does not back up that assumption, there have always been folks who really knew the Lord and who have turned completely away, and those folks became lost. If we are honest most of us have seen it. The first time I ever saw this was in HS, this fellow was always into dirty mind type of things and then one day he got saved and the change was astounding, for a while, and then in time he went back into the kind of dirty mind guy that he had always been and what I knew about him he was that way until he died. I think it is dangerous to tell folks that they cannot be lost because it gives them a false sense of security.
 
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I think that the gospel of the grace of Christ has been so watered down with law and condemnation that the "message" given out "as the gospel" does not have the power in it for real change. We can get born-again from it however which is wonderful and the most important aspect of it because it is our entrance into this grace in which we stand.

The gospel is about an exchanged life not merely a behavior modification program for the flesh to pretty it up. If we preached the real gospel then in "it" people will find real salvation for all areas of their lives while living on this earth.

A lot of the exhortations by Paul to live right were always based on him first telling them what the real gospel is.

These exhortations are descriptive of the fruit of an exchanged life and what the true Christian life looks like when we are walking by the Spirit and not according to the flesh.


Works-based salvationists make these exhortations a requirement in order to be saved which is the complete opposite of the gospel message in Christ.

Acceptance grace in that we are completely forgiven, deeply loved as a child of God and forever sealed in Him - knowing this will release the 2nd aspect of grace - empowering grace to go and sin no more. It's a by-product of our new life in Christ.

We really need to be cemented in the 1st aspect of acceptance grace - then empowering grace will be manifested as a fruit of His life being lived in and through us.
 
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It is the message of the good news of the grace of God in Christ alone that teaches us how to live godly in this present world. Titus 2:11-12.

Does the knowledge that the blood of Jesus cleanses from all sin because we are in Christ make us want to go out and sin all we want? No, a thousand times no. Jesus said "He who is forgiven much - loves much."

Knowing the real truth of Christ's work of grace and love for us in His great salvation - We run to our Father for everything including anything that hinders His life from being manifested in our lives. We run to the Father knowing we are secure in Christ's work on the cross and resurrection. We run to the Father boldly to find grace and mercy in time of need.

There will be streams of prodigal sons/daughters that have been dis-illusioned because of religious false teachings and false gospels of self-works and works-righteousness that they have been fed from religion coming to the Father for real life as they hear the true gospel of the grace of God in Christ's finished work.

Let's make sure they are met at the door by the Father Himself and not the self-righteous judgmental older brother who it turns out - does not really know the Father for who He really is.

The gospel is the only thing that has the power to effect real change in a believer. The good news of Christ Himself is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes. Rom. 1:16
 

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It is the message of the good news of the grace of God in Christ alone that teaches us how to live godly in this present world. Titus 2:11-12.

Does the knowledge that the blood of Jesus cleanses from all sin because we are in Christ make us want to go out and sin all we want? No, a thousand times no. Jesus said "He who is forgiven much - loves much."

Knowing the real truth of Christ's work of grace and love for us in His great salvation - We run to our Father for everything including anything that hinders His life from being manifested in our lives. We run to the Father knowing we are secure in Christ's work on the cross and resurrection. We run to the Father boldly to find grace and mercy in time of need.

There will be streams of prodigal sons/daughters that have been dis-illusioned because of religious false teachings and false gospels of self-works and works-righteousness that they have been fed from religion coming to the Father for real life as they hear the true gospel of the grace of God in Christ's finished work.

Let's make sure they are met at the door by the Father Himself and not the self-righteous judgmental older brother who it turns out - does not really know the Father for who He really is.

The gospel is the only thing that has the power to effect real change in a believer. The good news of Christ Himself is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes. Rom. 1:16
You say this (red) from one end of your mouth, and from the other you deny this power.

Your posts are inconsistent.

2 Timothy 3v5
[SUP]5 [/SUP]having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
 
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All the works of the flesh brings destruction to us in this world. Sinning distorts our view of God, others as well as ourselves.

Sinning in all it's forms ( such as works-righteousness, malice, envy, outbursts of anger, lack of self-control ...etc is no different then living a homosexual lifestyle ) is falling short of the glory/goodness of God which is sharing in His quality of life. Sinning is just plain stupid when our minds are renewed to see the effects of it.

Knowing that we have complete forgiveness of sins because of Christ's blood will always draw us back to Him for life and true living when we have gone our own way. This holds true for the prodigal son as well as the prodigal older judgmental brother. As it turns out they both did not know the true nature of the Father.

The Father in these last days is showing His beloved children the beauty of Christ's finished work in the knowledge of the complete forgiveness of sins and they are coming back to the Father. Let's have the Father meet them at our doors instead of the judgmental older brother.
 
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When we preach the gospel of the grace of Christ and no one says "What?...are you saying we can just go out and sin because of grace?" - if no one says that to us when we are preaching the grace of God. Then we have not preached the gospel like Paul did.

The very nature of the gospel leads the carnal mind to think that it means we can sin all we want because of grace and this is also what the natural mind that some Christians live by.

Which is what some legalists hear when they hear the true gospel being preached which is that our sins are forgiven in Christ because of His blood and that grace believers are saying it's ok to sin all you want now because of grace
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The reality is what is being said is the complete opposite of what those listening with their natural minds think is being said.

We don't need to water down the gospel and pervert it into a works-righteousness false gospel because it might get mis-understood as it takes away the full strength of the completed and awesome work that our Lord Jesus Christ did for all of us.

The answer to shall we sin so that grace may abound is in Romans chapters 6 and 7.


 

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All the works of the flesh brings destruction to us in this world. Sinning distorts our view of God, others as well as ourselves.

Galatians 5
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[SUP][c][/SUP] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, [SUP]20 [/SUP]idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, [SUP]21 [/SUP]envy, murders,[SUP][d][/SUP] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.


another contradiction....

Sinning in all it's forms ( such as works-righteousness, malice, envy, outbursts of anger, lack of self-control ...etc is no different then living a homosexual lifestyle ) is falling short of the glory/goodness of God which is sharing in His quality of life. Sinning is just plain stupid when our minds are renewed to see the effects of it.

Knowing that we have complete forgiveness of sins because of Christ's blood will always draw us back to Him for life and true living when we have gone our own way. This holds true for the prodigal son as well as the prodigal older judgmental brother. As it turns out they both did not know the true nature of the Father.

The Father in these last days is showing His beloved children the beauty of Christ's finished work in the knowledge of the complete forgiveness of sins and they are coming back to the Father. Let's have the Father meet them at our doors instead of the judgmental older brother.
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Why is the Bible so big,having so many words,and why the prophesies,and warnings,for if God chose who would be saved,and who would not be saved,without their input,then the chosen who can never fall away,would do what they do,and will accept regardless,and the not chosen who are not saved,would do what they do,and will not accept regardless.

The Bible could of been reduced in size,and said,I am God,confess Christ,a 1 paragraph description concerning Christ.Amen.

Why the prophesies to warn,and the history to prove,and warning concerning the flesh,and telling of the beast kingdom,and do not follow,and telling us today of the new age movement,and to avoid it,and many other things written,if the chosen cannot fall anyway,and will accept regardless if they do not know the Bible,but only hear confess Christ,and the not chosen will not accept regardless.

The purpose of the Bible is to prove that there is a God,by its extensiveness of how people came about,history,prophesy.

But what is there to have to prove if the chosen will be saved regardless,and the not chosen not saved regardless,and people will do what they do for it is already determined.

God warns stay away from the new age movement,but what does it matter for people will do what they do according to how God chose them.

Creation testifies there is a God,so the chosen will believe regardless,and the Bible could of been reduced to I am God,confess Christ,a 1 paragraph description concerning Christ.Amen,and the chosen would still be chosen,and the not chosen would not be chosen,for that would be enough information for the chosen to accept,and the not chosen to not accept,for what they do is what they do for it is already determined for them.

So why is the Bible so big,with so many words,and God telling us that He identifies Himself as the one true God,by history,prophesy,when it does not matter for people will do what they do no matter the proof God gives to prove He is the one true God,for creation without words is enough to prove there is a God,so that is all the chosen would need to make their decision.

Then write in a book,I am God,confess Christ,a 1 paragraph concerning Christ,Amen,and that is all the information the chosen need for their action is already determined.

The Bible warns,watch out for this deception,but what does it matter,watch out for that deception,but what does it matter,for people will accept,and not accept,that is already determined for them.

If they can never fall there is no need to warn them of anything,for they will not fall,they will not fall for deception.

And when it comes to healings,why is some of them in bad physical shape,for they would always be right with God,so there could be no hypocrisy to hinder a healing,no need to humble the saints by an affliction,no need for affliction so they can learn obedience,for they cannot fall anyway,and they are always right with God.There is no lesson to learn.

No need to humble the saints by allowing an infliction,no need to warns the saints,no need to tell the saints history,prophesy,no need to tell them to abstain from fleshy pleasures,no need to tell them to do good works,for they will do what they do regardless.

Paul was given a thorn in the flesh so that he would not get exalted above measure to keep him humble,but what is the point Paul would be right with God anyway regardless if he was afflicted,or not,and would always be right with God.

What is the lesson if the saints are right with God regardless,for what is there to learn if it is something that they have to learn that is essential to them staying saved,and not falling from grace,which that could not happen,so what is the lesson,for it would not matter.

What lesson is there if the saints will be right with God,cannot go astray,cannot fall,anyway.

Also how do people explain hypocrisy,and sin,among those that believe they were chosen,and cannot fall away,for how can that be if their actions were already determined,but their hypocrisy,and sin,testifies that they have a choice,for if they were chosen without their input,and their course of action already determined,and God hates sin,and does not want the saints to do it,then why the hypocrisy,and sin,if their course of action is already determined.

And also the Bible says no person can say Jesus is Lord but by the Holy Ghost,and any person that confesses Jesus is come in flesh is of God,and Peter confessed Jesus as the Christ,the Son of the living God,and Jesus said it was not the flesh that revealed that,but the Father in heaven revealed that.

Then why do so many people confess these things that do not believe the same way as those that believe they were chosen of God without their input.

How do the Catholics confess these things,for no one can confess these things unless God is working in their life.

Many are called but few are chosen,and not many noble,not many wise after the flesh,not many mighty,are called.

God does the calling and choosing on earth,determined by our actions,and heart condition,that is how people can say Jesus is Lord and Savior,and the Christ,the Son of the living God,but have errors,for God is working in their life for they have the right heart condition,but they have not sorted things out,and they may not,but God still works with them for they have been called,but many will not be chosen,because they do not ever get to the exact truth of the Christian faith.

Prosperity Gospel neglects the poor and needy,Paul says they erred from the faith,James says faith without works is dead,John says the love of God does not dwell in them.

God hates sin and says do not be deceived,whatever a person reaps is what they will sow,and if they hold unto sin then they are in no position for salvation.

But many fall victim to that who believe God chose them without their input.

They have been chosen for they confess Jesus as Lord and Savior,and the Christ,the Son of the living God,but they have not sorted things out,for having food,and clothing,be content,and those that name the name of Christ must depart from iniquity.

We have a choice,and God says He wants all people to be saved,and repent,and come to the knowledge of the truth,and the Spirit and bride,say Come,and this salvation is available to all people,and God will call many people on earth,and work with them,but few are chosen because they lacked,but God was putting them on the right path.

Because God's kingdom is true love,and He is not evil,so He would not chose who would be saved,and not saved,without their input,but God gets the glory for why they did accept the truth,for without His interceding they would of not accepted the truth.
 
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Your understanding of "inheriting the kingdom of God" is what is throwing you off from understanding the gospel of the grace of God in Christ's finished work on the cross and resurrection.

Inheriting the kingdom of God is not meaning "to go to heaven" in these scriptures. It means to live the quality of life that is in the kingdom now on this earth. The kingdom of God is within us now.

If we live by the flesh we will not receive the benefits that are ours in Christ as sin will distort our view of God, ourselves and others. We need to view Gal 5 in context with the fruit of the Spirit that brings life to us here on this earth.

In Gal 5 - "strife" is one in the list too as well as "things like these". What are those things?

If someone doesn't know exactly "what these things like these are" they would go to hell with the interpretation that the list in Gal. 5:19-21 means not going to heaven.

1 Cor 6:9 always needs to be used in context too. First of all - the Christian is called righteous - not unrighteous. Paul here "in context" is showing the behavior of unbelievers.

1 Corinthians 6:11 (NASB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified ( declared righteous ) in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

The new creation in Christ has been created in righteousness and holiness.

2 Corinthians 6:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness ( believer ) with unrighteousness ( unbeliever)? and what communion hath light with darkness?


Here is a thread that discusses Gal. 5:19-21 and the "works of the flesh" with both views being expressed. The works-righteousness one and the gospel of the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ one. Anyone interested in this subject can click on the link below to view it.

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...e-what-does-mean-does-heaven-hell-depend.html
 
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