A new look at Galatians

[ivanc0]

Have you ever looked at scripture regarding the law? Made a list of what the law is for and what it is not for? Your posts are always about what it is not for, you know that part, and like demons reporting scripture to Christ in the wilderness, you report only that. But to know God, you need to also know what the law IS for, and I have never seen you post that except to say it is ONLY to point us o sin. In other words, when you know that about law, you may close your eyes to anything good it does. That is not right. And from experience with your thinking, there is no way you can know the full extent of what it is and is not for. Like the Jews being blinded to Christ, you are completely blinded to anything positive about the law. The Jews are blinded for our sakes, you are blinded so children in the word accept that there is nothing good in the law for this helps demons fight the church of God.

Dear RedTent, I finally Understood what you want and that is this tread for, "You want to some how ignore, eliminate, obscure....etc, the book of Galats, because trashes the LAW.

YOU need to rip also acts 15, 21, hebrew 8, and more....What do you eat, that make you so blind!

Sorry for the expresion.... but Jesus said there is no better blind that the one who do not want to see.

 

[SarahM777]

I've known Redtent for long enough to know that she doesn't partake in mystical junk. She loves Jesus, and she's doing the best she can to share the word of God.

I will never understand why people think that bullying and battering a person is alright? Do you really think that by being unkind and saying cruel things to people you will win them over to your beliefs?

Do you know that it is God who makes the changes in us, and He does the same in others?

We can only share HIS truth.

I encourage you to do a study and see what the bible says about correcting a person. Then do a study on judgement and discernment, then do a study about the words that we speak.

Then can you please explain why she is trying to push a BIBLE study from someone this IS USING the mystical stuff? Aren't we suppose to warn people about this stuff?

 

[SarahM777]

I've known Redtent for long enough to know that she doesn't partake in mystical junk. She loves Jesus, and she's doing the best she can to share the word of God.

I will never understand why people think that bullying and battering a person is alright? Do you really think that by being unkind and saying cruel things to people you will win them over to your beliefs?

Do you know that it is God who makes the changes in us, and He does the same in others?

We can only share HIS truth.

I encourage you to do a study and see what the bible says about correcting a person. Then do a study on judgement and discernment, then do a study about the words that we speak.

By the way did Jesus spares people's feelings or was He harsh to our ears at times? Did Jesus ever sugar coat the truth? I am not into the politically correct garbage that is spewed as so called love.

 

[RedTent]

Dear RedTent, I finally Understood what you want and that is this tread for, "You want to some how ignore, eliminate, obscure....etc, the book of Galats, because trashes the LAW.

YOU need to rip also acts 15, 21, hebrew 8, and more....What do you eat, that make you so blind!

Sorry for the expresion.... but Jesus said there is no better blind that the one who do not want to see.

The book of Galatians tells what the law cannot do, that is not trashing it. You are trashing it, and trashing what God says about what the law can do. I am reading all scripture, including what the law is not meant for. You are eliminating any scripture about what the law is meant for and what it means to us, unless it agrees with your determination to trash the law.

You throw stones at me and say I am blind, while you say that you want the law trashed when scripture says it should not be. You say that Paul says everything God told Moses has to be done away with, scripture says it does not. And you base this on reading Galatians incorrectly, insisting that Paul told you all Moses was told by God had to go.

 

[Least]

Then can you please explain why she is trying to push a BIBLE study from someone this IS USING the mystical stuff? Aren't we suppose to warn people about this stuff?

She has done extensive studies not only in scripture, but also on history as it helps to understand the times in which the events written of occurred.

She has stated that she doesn't even know about the kabbalah, and I don't believe that it was her intention to "push" mystical stuff on anyone.

It seems that it doesn't really matter, It's the same people doing the same thing on other threads too. Different thread, different excuse.

 

[just-me]

To Redtent and all who think she's a nice God fearing woman. Ignore all the people who are railing unwarranted accusations. Then we will have a chance to edify one another as we see the day approaching. These argumentative people have no intention of Godly edification, for their agenda is obvious, and that is to cause contention.

Hebrews 10:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
2 Timothy 2:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
Romans 14:19 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
Romans 16:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Philippians 3:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

Now those that argue, and speak accusatory things are not following Romans 14:19. Therefore, I don't see any validity in their witness for their demeanor does not exemplify the truth. I have seen enough to know the difference between sincerity, and deceit no matter how many rep points have been obtained. Last week I put 6 more on my ignore list, and it's still getting bigger. Sarah777 is one of them.

 

[RedTent]

Then can you please explain why she is trying to push a BIBLE study from someone this IS USING the mystical stuff? Aren't we suppose to warn people about this stuff?

Sarah, you are the one pushing all this mystical stuff, I am trying my level best to get people to accept scripture. People here are trying their level best to get people to wipe big pieces of scripture out. I am fighting hard as I can with prayer and study and accepting all of the word for Christ's message. You and many posters are fighting hard as you can to accept only part of it, and that twisted. It is simple. If we only follow law it is wrong. If we say God was wrong to give us law, we may not do that because God is eternal and we must accept God. We are not to use law in the wrong way. But it is very sinful to say that Paul was against what Christ and God said about law. He was not.

 

[SarahM777]

Sarah, you are the one pushing all this mystical stuff, I am trying my level best to get people to accept scripture. People here are trying their level best to get people to wipe big pieces of scripture out. I am fighting hard as I can with prayer and study and accepting all of the word for Christ's message. You and many posters are fighting hard as you can to accept only part of it, and that twisted. It is simple. If we only follow law it is wrong. If we say God was wrong to give us law, we may not do that because God is eternal and we must accept God. We are not to use law in the wrong way. But it is very sinful to say that Paul was against what Christ and God said about law. He was not.

Please stop. The man IS USING that stuff in his study. Look at the bibliography. I am trying to warn you of that FACT,but you continue to IGNORE it. I am trying to warn you to STAY AWAY FROM the Talmud and the Mishna and he is using them and BLENDING them with the scriptures.

 

[Vaudeville]

All this Misha and Talmud stuff is not of God.

didn't read your own study? i thought you said you researched the author to make sure he was of God? it's fascinating how this group forgets their own teachings when caught.

 

[Vaudeville]

Please stop. The man IS USING that stuff in his study. Look at the bibliography. I am trying to warn you of that FACT,but you continue to IGNORE it. I am trying to warn you to STAY AWAY FROM the Talmud and the Mishna and he is using them and BLENDING them with the scriptures.

bad enough the author did it. the OP posted it all here. now denies knowing anything about it.

 

[just-me]

Sarah, you are the one pushing all this mystical stuff, I am trying my level best to get people to accept scripture. People here are trying their level best to get people to wipe big pieces of scripture out. I am fighting hard as I can with prayer and study and accepting all of the word for Christ's message. You and many posters are fighting hard as you can to accept only part of it, and that twisted. It is simple. If we only follow law it is wrong. If we say God was wrong to give us law, we may not do that because God is eternal and we must accept God. We are not to use law in the wrong way. But it is very sinful to say that Paul was against what Christ and God said about law. He was not.

Good point. If some were privy to hear what Paul said to Felix, I wonder if they would say Paul was a politician, and a wimp because he spoke those things that people liked to hear depending on his environment at the moment.

Acts 24:10-16 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Then Paul, after that the governor had beckoned unto him to speak, answered, Forasmuch as I know that thou hast been of many years a judge unto this nation, I do the more cheerfully answer for myself:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Because that thou mayest understand, that there are yet but twelve days since I went up to Jerusalem for to worship.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And they neither found me in the temple disputing with any man, neither raising up the people, neither in the synagogues, nor in the city:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men.

PAUL WAS RIGHT ON PEOPLE!!

 

[ivanc0]

The book of Galatians tells what the law cannot do, that is not trashing it. You are trashing it, and trashing what God says about what the law can do. I am reading all scripture, including what the law is not meant for. You are eliminating any scripture about what the law is meant for and what it means to us, unless it agrees with your determination to trash the law.

You throw stones at me and say I am blind, while you say that you want the law trashed when scripture says it should not be. You say that Paul says everything God told Moses has to be done away with, scripture says it does not. And you base this on reading Galatians incorrectly, insisting that Paul told you all Moses was told by God had to go.

It is not me, I am a Gentile, son of Gentiles, and grand son of gentiles. Acts 15 without shadow of doubt says that the Circumcision and the law of Moses is not for Gentiles. it is not a verse is a FULL CHAPTER.

However I admit that the Jew christians did continue to follow their "moses law" driven lives, acts 21 shows both cases.

So no Generalizing Here, Moses law for the Jews. Grace for the Gentiles.

Now I do not if you JEW or Gentile. I only know I am Gentile.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

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Have you ever looked at scripture regarding the law? Made a list of what the law is for and what it is not for?

Yes I have. I have posted A bunch of it on here. As hass MANY other people. The problem is, Yu only want to look at scripture which supports your belief. You ignore the rest of scripture which contradicts your belief.

Who should we listen to? You or God? (or worse yet, a man who is using anti-God resources to back his belief, as you are tying to get us to look at now.

Your posts are always about what it is not for,

Oh ok thank you.

I post scripture, guess we should not use that as our guide?

you know that part, and like demons reporting scripture to Christ in the wilderness, you report only that. But to know God, you need to also know what the law IS for, and I have never seen you post that except to say it is ONLY to point us o sin. In other words, when you know that about law, you may close your eyes to anything good it does. That is not right. And from experience with your thinking, there is no way you can know the full extent of what it is and is not for. Like the Jews being blinded to Christ, you are completely blinded to anything positive about the law. The Jews are blinded for our sakes, you are blinded so children in the word accept that there is nothing good in the law for this helps demons fight the church of God.

what Good can it do?

Can it make you righteous?? No

Can it save you?? No

Can it make you see what God wants you to do and who he wants you to serve?? No

Can it make you fulfill the law of Christ?? No

Can it make you understand and perform the fruit of the spirit?? No.

so what good is it once it has led you to Christ? other than to make you

1. Think you are a good righteous person (which you are not)
2. make you boast of how good you keep Gods law (which you can not)]
3. make you think it saves you, which it can not
4. make you fear God (which paul says we should not)
5. make you give up trying to please God, because all you do is fail (if you REALLY TRULY UNDERSTAND THE LAW)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I've known Redtent for long enough to know that she doesn't partake in mystical junk. She loves Jesus, and she's doing the best she can to share the word of God.

I will never understand why people think that bullying and battering a person is alright? Do you really think that by being unkind and saying cruel things to people you will win them over to your beliefs?

since when is confronting someone, and showing her what she is using to prove her point is a dangerous thing?

If she believes this from this man, what makes you think she may not fall into danger of believing everything he says?

She wants us to follow men of God. yet she wants us to follow a man who is not from God and we should not warn her??

wow!

I pray you do not do this with your kids when they get in danger. Because you afraid you may be bullying and battering them so you do not warn them of the danger!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

By the way did Jesus spares people's feelings or was He harsh to our ears at times? Did Jesus ever sugar coat the truth? I am not into the politically correct garbage that is spewed as so called love.

Ahh yes, they new form of Godliness, where do not ever confront someone with anything, lets all be happy go lucky people and except everything as truth..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The book of Galatians tells what the law cannot do, that is not trashing it.

Your right, It is not trashing it, It is telling us WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT WAS GIVEN FOR. WHAT IT CAN DO. AND WHAT IT CAN NOT DO.

And your IGNORING ALL OF IT.

You are trashing it, and trashing what God says about what the law can do. I am reading all scripture, including what the law is not meant for. You are eliminating any scripture about what the law is meant for and what it means to us, unless it agrees with your determination to trash the law.

You throw stones at me and say I am blind, while you say that you want the law trashed when scripture says it should not be. You say that Paul says everything God told Moses has to be done away with, scripture says it does not. And you base this on reading Galatians incorrectly, insisting that Paul told you all Moses was told by God had to go.

NO ONE IS TRASHING THE LAW.

We are trying to SHOW YOU WHY IT WAS GIVEN, AND WHAT IT S PURPOSE WAS.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Please stop. The man IS USING that stuff in his study. Look at the bibliography. I am trying to warn you of that FACT,but you continue to IGNORE it. I am trying to warn you to STAY AWAY FROM the Talmud and the Mishna and he is using them and BLENDING them with the scriptures.

she would rather listen to a man who is not from God who supports her belief, than listen to anything else.

as long as it supports her belief, it must be from God.

 

[Vaudeville]

Good point. If some were privy to hear what Paul said to Felix, I wonder if they would say Paul was a politician, and a wimp because he spoke those things that people liked to hear depending on his environment at the moment.

Acts 24:10-16 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Then Paul, after that the governor had beckoned unto him to speak, answered, Forasmuch as I know that thou hast been of many years a judge unto this nation, I do the more cheerfully answer for myself:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Because that thou mayest understand, that there are yet but twelve days since I went up to Jerusalem for to worship.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And they neither found me in the temple disputing with any man, neither raising up the people, neither in the synagogues, nor in the city:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men.

PAUL WAS RIGHT ON PEOPLE!!

did you agree with the study? did you read it?

 

[Vaudeville]

she would rather listen to a man who is not from God who supports her belief, than listen to anything else.

as long as it supports her belief, it must be from God.

the study is from satan. who uses the devil's blasphemous books in a christian study?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

the study is from satan. who uses the devil's blasphemous books in a christian study?

I will be honest. I read alot of stuff. That is the only way you can find what someone believes, but your right, to read it to find Gods truth is simply foolish