A study on the Trinity

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cfultz3

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#41
You say that Jesus has eternal life and we don't have eternal life but everlasting life. But we are the spouse of Jesus. Eve was in Adam.Adam and Eve were only one flesh. If eternal life was only in Jesus then we as he spouse, we have it.
When you were born, did you not have a beginning? YES
Does God have a beginning? NO
Does the Church have a beginning? YES

There was no Church before the Ascension of Christ to Heaven

So, Jesus, from BEING the Eternal Life, bestowed upon His bride everlasting life. Because she has a start, therefore, it can only be everlasting.

So, deductively reasoning:

if we are created and God is eternal, does that also make us eternal, although we have a beginning?

If we say that we are from eternity, then does that not say that God is a liar, since He said, "In the beginning"?

If we are from eternity, then what justice would it be for God to have placed us in flesh so that we might see death?

Then this question must be answered also, "What was the purpose of God keeping us away from the Tree of Life, if we already have eternal life?"

What was His intent when He said to the Word, "unless he puts forth his hand and take also of the Tree of Life and eat, and live forever", and then threw us out of the garden so that we could not eat from that tree?
 
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Israel

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#42
I'm curious, why do put unsure for your spiritual staus in your profile???

Tom
Look at the choices I have. Christian, non christian and unsure. I'm not a christian but I'm very spiritual. I chose what was best given my options.
 
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Tombo

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#43
Look at the choices I have. Christian, non christian and unsure. I'm not a christian but I'm very spiritual. I chose what was best given my options.
You're not a Christian, yet you say you go boldly to the throne of grace and and tell everyone that they will be saved no matter what??? If you're not a Christian (and I don't doubt you're not) then what do you believe?

Tom
 
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GodsGoldenStar

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#44
When you were born, did you not have a beginning? YES
Does God have a beginning? NO
Does the Church have a beginning? YES

There was no Church before the Ascension of Christ to Heaven

So, Jesus, from BEING the Eternal Life, bestowed upon His bride everlasting life. Because she has a start, therefore, it can only be everlasting.

So, deductively reasoning:

if we are created and God is eternal, does that also make us eternal, although we have a beginning?

If we say that we are from eternity, then does that not say that God is a liar, since He said, "In the beginning"?

If we are from eternity, then what justice would it be for God to have placed us in flesh so that we might see death?

Then this question must be answered also, "What was the purpose of God keeping us away from the Tree of Life, if we already have eternal life?"

What was His intent when He said to the Word, "unless he puts forth his hand and take also of the Tree of Life and eat, and live forever", and then threw us out of the garden so that we could not eat from that tree?
Your quote: " Does God have a beginning?"
My answer: God IS "the Beginning AND the End" "Alpha and Omega"
 
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GodsGoldenStar

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#45
Look at the choices I have. Christian, non christian and unsure. I'm not a christian but I'm very spiritual. I chose what was best given my options.
A Christian is a someone who follows Christ. Do you not follow Christian? I'm curious too and just asking because you said "I'm not a Christian, I'm very spiritual." Christians are spiritual people, God is aslo spiritual...
What do you mean by "I'm very spiritual"?

My friend once said that but he's a wiccian (pagan)
 
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Israel

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#46
You're not a Christian, yet you say you go boldly to the throne of grace and and tell everyone that they will be saved no matter what??? If you're not a Christian (and I don't doubt you're not) then what do you believe?

Tom
I believe in One God who stands alone. And from Him I receive both good and evil. And knowing that, I rejoice in not only the good times but the bad as well.
 
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cfultz3

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#47
In Genesis where the bible says "us", why assuming that this means that God is talking to the Word or Spirit? Now if we are made in God's image, we should understand by this pattern that it takes both a male and a FEMALE to make a son. Of a truth, wisdom is the feminine side of God.
Do you people ever get enough of such advkvkmvkasd.....nevermind
 
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cfultz3

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#48
Your quote: " Does God have a beginning?"
My answer: God IS "the Beginning AND the End" "Alpha and Omega"
That is not at all what is meant Golden Star. He is the Orginator of all things. He is the End Result of all things. All things were created by Him and for Him.

I will ask more questions, will you answer them and the ones I have already asked?

If God has a beginning, then who made God?

If a god is above God, then is God the only God?

To what decree do we stop saying that a god created a god who created a god who created God?

It seems that you read the Bible, how then can you assume that God has a beginning?
 
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Tombo

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#49
Do you people ever get enough of such advkvkmvkasd.....nevermind
I know, mind boggling isn't it. What some people come up with is just beyond words.
Keep fighting the good fight, brother.

Tom
 
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#50
I believe in One God who stands alone. And from Him I receive both good and evil. And knowing that, I rejoice in not only the good times but the bad as well.
Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and that God raised him from the dead?
 
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GodsGoldenStar

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#51
That is not at all what is meant Golden Star. He is the Orginator of all things. He is the End Result of all things. All things were created by Him and for Him.

I will ask more questions, will you answer them and the ones I have already asked?

If God has a beginning, then who made God?

If a god is above God, then is God the only God?

To what decree do we stop saying that a god created a god who created a god who created God?

It seems that you read the Bible, how then can you assume that God has a beginning?
I don't assume that God has a beginning, because no one created God, he was here all along. I'm just saying that God is the beginning.
 
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cfultz3

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#52
I know, mind boggling isn't it. What some people come up with is just beyond words.
Keep fighting the good fight, brother.

Tom
Thank you my kind brother.

Wait, if it takes a mother and a father to have a child, and if I am a male, then there has to be a sister somewheres since there are only two genders. So you must be my sister. Or perhaps you are a brother and therefore, I must be the sister. Sounds logical to you? :)
 
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cfultz3

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#53
I don't assume that God has a beginning, because no one created God, he was here all along. I'm just saying that God is the beginning.
Oh ok, I understand what you are saying now. I did not "logically" connect that to the question of "Does God have a beginning".
 
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GodsGoldenStar

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#54
I believe in One God who stands alone. And from Him I receive both good and evil. And knowing that, I rejoice in not only the good times but the bad as well.
And I made a typo, I ment to say, "do you not follow Christ?" I said Christian

Cause a Christian is someone who follows Christ.
 
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#55
I was just telling my Mom, that it seems the whole christian family has rejected us, put us out of their
fellowship, just because we believe in TSOA, you want nothing to do with us.

Do you know how sad that is?

Nothing we say to you is of any importance because of that. We have not rejected you, but you have
totally disregarded everything we have to say no matter what topic it is. Why?

We love the same God, We believe in The Grace and Mercy of God towards us, We believe in Christ Jesus.
He is our Saviour as much as He is yours.

We have showed you nothing but love, and you do nothing but accuse us, and judge us.
I don't understand this, is this the way it's suppose to be?

God Bless you all
 
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Israel

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#56
A Christian is a someone who follows Christ. Do you not follow Christian? I'm curious too and just asking because you said "I'm not a Christian, I'm very spiritual." Christians are spiritual people, God is aslo spiritual...
What do you mean by "I'm very spiritual"?

My friend once said that but he's a wiccian (pagan)
Which "Christ" do you follow under christianity? There are many christs.
 
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GodsGoldenStar

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#57
Oh ok, I understand what you are saying now. I did not "logically" connect that to the question of "Does God have a beginning".
Oh OK lol.
 
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#58
I was just telling my Mom, that it seems the whole christian family has rejected us, put us out of their
fellowship, just because we believe in TSOA, you want nothing to do with us.

Do you know how sad that is?

Nothing we say to you is of any importance because of that. We have not rejected you, but you have
totally disregarded everything we have to say no matter what topic it is. Why?

We love the same God, We believe in The Grace and Mercy of God towards us, We believe in Christ Jesus.
He is our Saviour as much as He is yours.

We have showed you nothing but love, and you do nothing but accuse us, and judge us.
I don't understand this, is this the way it's suppose to be?

God Bless you all
2knowhim, you are a sister in Christ. I know you love God very much. I do not believe the same things you do, especially concerning you not believing in the literal return of Christ, and universal salvation. When those things are discussed, we will disagree, as you know. You are "convinced" of things that I disagree with. Heck, you have written me off, laughed at me because of some of the things I've posted about those topics.

You post things I disagree with, and at times I may think you're loopy, but that does not mean I don't love you or want nothing to do with you. I would NEVER say you're not a Christian. I trust that you are.

Why are you so bothered tonight?

God bless you.
 
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cfultz3

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#59
2knowhim, you are a sister in Christ. I know you love God very much. I do not believe the same things you do, especially concerning you not believing in the literal return of Christ, and universal salvation. When those things are discussed, we will disagree, as you know. You are "convinced" of things that I disagree with. Heck, you have written me off, laughed at me because of some of the things I've posted about those topics.

You post things I disagree with, and at times I may think you're loopy, but that does not mean I don't love you or want nothing to do with you. I would NEVER say you're not a Christian. I trust that you are.

Why are you so bothered tonight?

God bless you.
Dido to that
 
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#60
Which "Christ" do you follow under christianity? There are many christs.
There is only one true Christ. Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God. The man talked about in the gospels.

Have you confessed him as Lord, and do you believe God raised him from the dead?