against oneness pentecostalism
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They are one, and there are countless references to this, however here are some:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 10:30I andmyFather are one.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Mat 28:19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway,evenunto the end of the world. Amen.
God is One. אלוהים הוא אחד Examining the quote from Isaiah, you will confirm that one of the names of the Child is Wonderful Counselor, the Holy Spirit.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 10:30I andmyFather are one.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Mat 28:19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway,evenunto the end of the world. Amen.
God is One. אלוהים הוא אחד Examining the quote from Isaiah, you will confirm that one of the names of the Child is Wonderful Counselor, the Holy Spirit.
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I refuse to continue in this discussion reduced to silliness and frivolity. Anyone who is even a novice reader of God's Word knows that Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as being sent as a counselor for each of us to lead us to all truth. I received the Holy Spirit and I know He is God, the Wonderful Counselor, and Jesus Christ. God bless all in Jesus Christ and all who will come to Him, amen.
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Personally, I don't take issue with either Oneness or Trinity. The way I look at Jesus was / is the physical manifestation of God in a human body while the Holy Spirit is the spiritual, omnipresent manifestation of God. Regardless if you view them as one, two or as three the bible clearly states that 'they' are of one mind and one accord.
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While I forget the references, scripture plainly states that God is a 'Spirit' and those that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth. I can recall several occurances in scripture where the Holy Spirit is referred to as 'His Spirit', He referring to God the Father.
Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about anyways...
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Well, it's da one-and-only PPS again ... Praise the Lord ... How did we deserve this blessing?
I agree, the one-and-only Living God is NOT really three "Persons".
God really is three "Manifestations" ... because all spirit beings, entities, etc. are sexless!
However, God knows that we would never have a personal relationship with an "It".
So, God decided to portray "Itself" as three "Persons" ... just for us ... just so we could relate to Him ... er, Them.
Happy now? ... You won't be when you receive my bill (I've got your address).
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I agree, the one-and-only Living God is NOT really three "Persons".
God really is three "Manifestations" ... because all spirit beings, entities, etc. are sexless!
However, God knows that we would never have a personal relationship with an "It".
So, God decided to portray "Itself" as three "Persons" ... just for us ... just so we could relate to Him ... er, Them.
Happy now? ... You won't be when you receive my bill (I've got your address).
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Johnathan, didn't he say that God is a Spirit? John 4:24!
Now if Jesus refered to God as Spirit, then would it stand to reason that the Father is the Spirit?
And Gabriel the angel said that holy thing (Christ) which is in thee is of the Holy Ghost (Spirit).
Please compare Psalm 95: 7-11 and Hebrews 3:7-11
By these witnesses we know that the Father is the Holy Spirit, please do not respond until you have compared these scriptures and can honestly tell me that it was not the Holy Spirit that spake it!
Now if Jesus refered to God as Spirit, then would it stand to reason that the Father is the Spirit?
And Gabriel the angel said that holy thing (Christ) which is in thee is of the Holy Ghost (Spirit).
Please compare Psalm 95: 7-11 and Hebrews 3:7-11
By these witnesses we know that the Father is the Holy Spirit, please do not respond until you have compared these scriptures and can honestly tell me that it was not the Holy Spirit that spake it!
Just incase you haven't got the message yet...this is the 'error of Sabellius' (the heresy of Sabellianism)! 
Nor were there any Trinitarians. The first mention of Triad was by Theophilus referring to God, His Word, and His Wisdom in ~180AD. Tertullian first utilized "person" and "Trinity" in ~213AD.
And what little we know of Sabellianism comes from Tertullian and others in their writings against Sabellianism. There are no original writings of Sabellius extant. And modern Oneness isn't Sequential Modalism anyway; and is closer to truth than at least modern Trinity, which has drifted to Triadism.
And what little we know of Sabellianism comes from Tertullian and others in their writings against Sabellianism. There are no original writings of Sabellius extant. And modern Oneness isn't Sequential Modalism anyway; and is closer to truth than at least modern Trinity, which has drifted to Triadism.
Here is what counts-
Jesus could cast out demons.. give eternal life.. was HEAD of the 12 disciples (not actually one of them) .. met Abraham.. has the name of the national God of Israel. Can be hurt, accepts worship. All things were created through Him.. and by Him.
The Holy Spirit- also gives eternal life .. dwells in the midst of one of God's churches as the Comforter (and incidentally Jesus calls Himself the one who dwells in the midst also) .. also can be hurt.. accepts worship.. the Spirit of God moved across the face of the waters in the beginning.
The Father is also the same-- giving eternal life.. accepts worship.. accepts prayer to Him.. created all things.. etc etc
Point being
no inequality in the trinity
no inferiority
co-equal
So Jesus is God
The Holy Spirit is God
The Father is God
three beings?
No-- one being expressed in three ways.. all the time.
Jesus could cast out demons.. give eternal life.. was HEAD of the 12 disciples (not actually one of them) .. met Abraham.. has the name of the national God of Israel. Can be hurt, accepts worship. All things were created through Him.. and by Him.
The Holy Spirit- also gives eternal life .. dwells in the midst of one of God's churches as the Comforter (and incidentally Jesus calls Himself the one who dwells in the midst also) .. also can be hurt.. accepts worship.. the Spirit of God moved across the face of the waters in the beginning.
The Father is also the same-- giving eternal life.. accepts worship.. accepts prayer to Him.. created all things.. etc etc
Point being
no inequality in the trinity
no inferiority
co-equal
So Jesus is God
The Holy Spirit is God
The Father is God
three beings?
No-- one being expressed in three ways.. all the time.
Nope. The Logos is the Divine Expression, and it is singular. God expressed Himself in one way... as Jesus.
There are no celestial siamese triplets. The Father is God Transcendent. The Son is God Immanent. The Holy Spirit is God's OWN Spirit, divided asunder from Himself into creation by the Logos.
BTW... Godhead (Theotes) is also singular.
There are no celestial siamese triplets. The Father is God Transcendent. The Son is God Immanent. The Holy Spirit is God's OWN Spirit, divided asunder from Himself into creation by the Logos.
BTW... Godhead (Theotes) is also singular.